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garhkal
06-25-2015, 08:39 PM
I am trying to remember which month is which for "History/heritage" by the month for the mil. I remember Feb is Black history, March is womans and iirc July is Pacific islander. What are the rest?

And yes trying Google and bing didn't help out.

Bos Mutus
06-25-2015, 08:54 PM
I am trying to remember which month is which for "History/heritage" by the month for the mil. I remember Feb is Black history, March is womans and iirc July is Pacific islander. What are the rest?

And yes trying Google and bing didn't help out.


Maybe you just didn't Google the right terms


Annual special months recognized by presidential proclamation[edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_observances_in_the_United_ States_by_presidential_proclamation&action=edit&section=3)]

January: National Mentoring Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Mentoring_Month) [1] (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/12/21/presidential-proclamation-mentoring-month)
January: Stalking Awareness Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stalking_Awareness_Month&action=edit&redlink=1) [2] (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/12/21/presidential-proclamation-stalking-awareness-month)
January: Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Slavery_and_Human_Trafficking_Prev ention_Month&action=edit&redlink=1) [3] (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/12/22/presidential-proclamation-national-slavery-and-human-trafficking-prevent)
February: American Heart Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Heart_Month)
February: Black History Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_History_Month)
March: American Red Cross Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=American_Red_Cross_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
March: Women's History Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_History_Month)
March: Irish-American Heritage Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish-American_Heritage_Month)
April: Cancer Control Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer_Control_Month)
April: National Donate Life Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Donate_Life_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
April: Prevent Child Abuse Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prevent_Child_Abuse_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
April: National Sexual Assault Awareness Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Sexual_Assault_Awareness_Month)
April: National Financial Literacy Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Financial_Literacy_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
May: Older Americans Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Older_Americans_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
May: Jewish American Heritage Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_American_Heritage_Month)[13] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_observances_in_the_United_States_by_presid ential_proclamation#cite_note-ref8-13)
May: Asian Pacific American Heritage Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Pacific_American_Heritage_Month)[14] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_observances_in_the_United_States_by_presid ential_proclamation#cite_note-ref9-14)
May: Mental Health Awareness Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Health_Awareness_Month)
May: National Physical Fitness and Sports Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Physical_Fitness_and_Spor ts_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
May: National Foster Care Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Foster_Care_Month)
June: Gay and Lesbian Pride Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_and_Lesbian_Pride_Month)
June: Caribbean-American Heritage Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caribbean-American_Heritage_Month&action=edit&redlink=1) [4] (http://www.caribbeannetnews.com/2005/06/28/approves.shtml) [5] (http://www.caribbeannetnews.com/cgi-script/csArticles/articles/000019/001954.htm) [6] (http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/06/20060605-6.html)
June: Great Outdoors Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Great_Outdoors_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
June: National Oceans Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Oceans_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
June: Black Music Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Music_Month)
July: National Ice Cream Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ice_Cream_Month)
September : Childhood Cancer Awareness (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Childhood_Cancer_Awareness&action=edit&redlink=1)
September: National Alcohol and Drug Addiction Recovery Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Alcohol_and_Drug_Addictio n_Recovery_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
September: National Ovarian and Prostate Cancer Awareness Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Ovarian_and_Prostate_Canc er_Awareness_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
September: National Wilderness Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Wilderness_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
September: National Preparedness Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Preparedness_Month)
September: National Childhood Obesity Awareness Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Childhood_Obesity_Awarene ss_Month&action=edit&redlink=1) [7] (http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=88380)
September 15–October 15: National Hispanic Heritage Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Hispanic_Heritage_Month)[15] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_observances_in_the_United_States_by_presid ential_proclamation#cite_note-ref10-15)
October: Italian American Heritage and Culture Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Italian_American_Heritage_and_Cult ure_Month&action=edit&redlink=1) [8] (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/10/14/presidential-proclamation-italian-american-heritage-and-culture-month)
October: National Breast Cancer Awareness Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Breast_Cancer_Awareness_Month)
October: National Domestic Violence Awareness Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Domestic_Violence_Awarene ss_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
October: National Arts & Humanities Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Arts_%26_Humanities_Month)
October: National Disability Employment Awareness Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Disability_Employment_Awareness_Month)
October: National Cyber Security Awareness Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Cyber_Security_Awareness_Month)
October: National Energy Awareness Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Energy_Awareness_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
November: National Entrepreneurship Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Entrepreneurship_Month&action=edit&redlink=1) [9] (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/11/01/presidential-proclamation-national-entrepreneurship-month-2012)
November: Military Family Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Military_Family_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
November: National Bone Marrow Donor Awareness Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Bone_Marrow_Donor_Awarene ss_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
November: National Hospice Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Hospice_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
November: National Adoption Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Adoption_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
November: National Family Caregivers Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Family_Caregivers_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
November: National Alzheimer's Disease Awareness Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Alzheimer%27s_Disease_Awa reness_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
November: National Diabetes Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Diabetes_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
November: National American Indian Heritage Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_American_Indian_Heritage_Month)
December: National Impaired Driving Prevention Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Impaired_Driving_Preventi on_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)
December: National Critical Infrastructure Protection Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Critical_Infrastructure_P rotection_Month&action=edit&redlink=1)

Absinthe Anecdote
06-25-2015, 09:09 PM
Maybe you just didn't Google the right terms

Can you google the answer to why life is so unfair?

That will save us a lot of time in here.

USN - Retired
06-25-2015, 09:22 PM
Morgan Freeman on Black History Month

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s

USN - Retired
06-25-2015, 09:47 PM
Mustache March

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustache_March

garhkal
06-25-2015, 10:18 PM
Maybe you just didn't Google the right terms

I saw national holidays, national military appreciation months.. I was looking for "This month is This ethnicity/group heritage/history month FOR The military specifically.

Bos Mutus
06-25-2015, 10:58 PM
I saw national holidays, national military appreciation months.. I was looking for "This month is This ethnicity/group heritage/history month FOR The military specifically.

That's probably why you didn't find it...the military doesn't have it's own months specifically FOR the military, to my knowledge, they just celebrate the national ones along with everybody else.

Likewise, you're probably not going to find Independence Day specifically FOR the military...but, you might find the military celebrating the same Independence Day as everybody else

garhkal
06-26-2015, 12:44 AM
Well going by that above chart, which is it that the military celebrates via the Heritage committee for October. I know it ain't Italian Americans. That is what i am trying to find. I know when i was in, each and every month was a separate "history or Heritage month" that we celebrated, and that chart does not answer my question.

efmbman
06-26-2015, 01:41 AM
Your local EEO leader would be able to tell you. Doubtful that it is public information (not that it is a secret or anything like that). I bet some commands have certain observances they stress over others. I was in 22 years and I can tell you I never saw a flyer for "National Oceans Month". Safe bet to add any observance that includes a minority or culture.

garhkal
06-26-2015, 05:02 AM
I've been retired since 2012 Jan, so i have no EEO leader any more.. But thanks anyway.

Mjölnir
06-26-2015, 12:08 PM
Notice how in July National Ice Cream Month has no competition ... That's what I am talking about.

Rainmaker
06-26-2015, 12:52 PM
Notice how in July National Ice Cream Month has no competition ... That's what I am talking about.

Das Rayciss..

SomeRandomGuy
06-26-2015, 01:09 PM
Notice how in July National Ice Cream Month has no competition ... That's what I am talking about.

Does anyone have information on the Ice Cream Appreciation 5K run to your local Dairy Queen? I'm not seeing anything at my base.

FLAPS, USAF (ret)
06-26-2015, 01:42 PM
At one of my assignments, commanders were expected to attend all "Fill in the Blank" Heritage Months luncheons. I think it was the Asian Pacific lunch, I was forced to fill in for my commander, sit in my chair, eat my Asian munchies, and maintain a smile on my face. Actually, there was a speaker who was pretty good.

Anyway, I think it's pretty sad that a) the military has to jump on the "Fill in the Blank" Heritage Month wagon, and b) ORDERS its leaders to attend these events, no matter what their personal feelings are. Can't the military just focus on MILITARY stuff?

UncaRastus
06-26-2015, 01:47 PM
When I was a child, I asked my dad why, if there was a Mother's Day and a Father's Day, why there was no Kid's Day. He answered with the statement that every day was Kid's Day.

Garhkal, you must know that every day is Military Day. Every month is Military Month. Every year is The Year of the Military.

If everybody in here can clap their hands, that is. No slow clapping allowed.

Absinthe Anecdote
06-26-2015, 03:10 PM
At one of my assignments, commanders were expected to attend all "Fill in the Blank" Heritage Months luncheons. I think it was the Asian Pacific lunch, I was forced to fill in for my commander, sit in my chair, eat my Asian munchies, and maintain a smile on my face. Actually, there was a speaker who was pretty good.

Anyway, I think it's pretty sad that a) the military has to jump on the "Fill in the Blank" Heritage Month wagon, and b) ORDERS its leaders to attend these events, no matter what their personal feelings are. Can't the military just focus on MILITARY stuff?

What a load of cry baby drivel this is. After you dry your eyes and wipe the snot from your nose, would you care to explain why heritage months are so bad?

Also, in a few years most of the military will be replaced by robots so the problem will be solved, mostly.

FLAPS, USAF (ret)
06-26-2015, 03:31 PM
What a load of cry baby drivel this is. After you dry your eyes and wipe the snot from your nose, would you care to explain why heritage months are so bad?

Also, in a few years most of the military will be replaced by robots so the problem will be solved, mostly.

Heritage months perpetuate the focus on our differences, rather than our commonalities. The fact is, we are ALL human beings. In the Air Force, all members bleed blue. That's it! Equality will finally be a reality when we STOP dividing ourselves based on sex, race, religion. That's a fact, jack!

USN - Retired
06-26-2015, 03:34 PM
would you care to explain why heritage months are so bad?



Morgan Freeman provided an excellent answer to that question. See post #4 of this thread for his answer.

Rainmaker
06-26-2015, 03:37 PM
At one of my assignments, commanders were expected to attend all "Fill in the Blank" Heritage Months luncheons. I think it was the Asian Pacific lunch, I was forced to fill in for my commander, sit in my chair, eat my Asian munchies, and maintain a smile on my face. Actually, there was a speaker who was pretty good.

Anyway, I think it's pretty sad that a) the military has to jump on the "Fill in the Blank" Heritage Month wagon, and b) ORDERS its leaders to attend these events, no matter what their personal feelings are. Can't the military just focus on MILITARY stuff?

Nope, FLAPS, We Can't be having that because our Nation and our Military (Through a promotion system that rewards PC groupthink Cowardice) has been hijacked by Leftist Ideologues.

Consider the following quote:

"The greatest strength of our Airmen is their diversity!"- -- General Mark A. Welsh III, Air Force Chief of Staff

http://www.af.mil/Portals/1/documents/diversity/diversity-strategic-roadmap.pdf See page 2.

Now, Notice how this Ass Clown doesn't cite their Skill, Discipline, Intelligence, Competence, Teamwork, Courage, Consistency, Reliability, Flexibility, Creativity etc. etc....? Of all the things to chose from he considers our Airmen's UNLIKENESS to be their greatest attribute. That's because One of the primary missions given to the Military Today is to Inculcate Cultural Marxism. And, Keeping disharmony alive through class warfare is ALWAYS the hallmark of leftism.

I don't know if they really believe this stuff or they just go along with it because, they're just pussies. . But, either way the end result is the same.. And The next conflict we have (against someone other than a bunch of goat herders) is probably going to look a lot like the first 90 days of the Korean War.

Remember the first year in the White House when they put the Chairman Mao Ornaments on the Christmas Tree? This crap is and has been right out in the open the whole time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution

Absinthe Anecdote
06-26-2015, 04:15 PM
Heritage months perpetuate the focus on our differences, rather than our commonalities. The fact is, we are ALL human beings. In the Air Force, all members bleed blue. That's it! Equality will finally be a reality when we STOP dividing ourselves based on sex, race, religion. That's a fact, jack!

Bullshit! Don't try to change your tune to one of a hardcore airman after you were just sniveling a few minutes ago about having to eat a burrito at a Mexican heritage lunch.

FLAPS, USAF (ret)
06-26-2015, 04:28 PM
Bullshit! Don't try to change your tune to one of a hardcore airman after you were just sniveling a few minutes ago about eat a burrito at a Mexican heritage lunch.

Well, I'm probably the best judge of my own actual opinions, so I suggest you stop making yourself look like an ass.

garhkal
06-26-2015, 04:31 PM
At one of my assignments, commanders were expected to attend all "Fill in the Blank" Heritage Months luncheons. I think it was the Asian Pacific lunch, I was forced to fill in for my commander, sit in my chair, eat my Asian munchies, and maintain a smile on my face. Actually, there was a speaker who was pretty good.

Anyway, I think it's pretty sad that a) the military has to jump on the "Fill in the Blank" Heritage Month wagon, and b) ORDERS its leaders to attend these events, no matter what their personal feelings are. Can't the military just focus on MILITARY stuff?

Same here. Heck at 2 of my commands, i do remember some of our upper echelon stating that "those who DON'T go fully in and show support to these events will NEVER get a 3 or higher on their equal opportunity rankings.


What a load of cry baby drivel this is. After you dry your eyes and wipe the snot from your nose, would you care to explain why heritage months are so bad?

Also, in a few years most of the military will be replaced by robots so the problem will be solved, mostly.

Its not that they are bad in and of themselves, but that you are compelled to show support, "OR ELSE".

Rainmaker
06-26-2015, 05:04 PM
Heritage months perpetuate the focus on our differences, rather than our commonalities. The fact is, we are ALL human beings. In the Air Force, all members bleed blue. That's it! Equality will finally be a reality when we STOP dividing ourselves based on sex, race, religion. That's a fact, jack!

Equality is overrated. This Country wasn't founded on the principle of Equality. The only time we are supposed to be equal is when we Are Created.

The Country was founded on the principle of Freedom. Freedom from the Government. Which meant Freedom to succeed or Fail on your own merit without the government getting involved and intervening in your business......

Equality Sucks. Because, when everyone is a winner, no one is a winner...... Equality is Un-American....You want Equality, Then Move to Fucking France.

Rainmaker
06-26-2015, 05:09 PM
Same here. Heck at 2 of my commands, i do remember some of our upper echelon stating that "those who DON'T go fully in and show support to these events will NEVER get a 3 or higher on their equal opportunity rankings.



Its not that they are bad in and of themselves, but that you are compelled to show support, "OR ELSE".

What in the world is an equal opportunity ranking? Please Don't tell me that is an actual category on your evals now or something?

Rainmaker
06-26-2015, 05:24 PM
Mustache March

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustache_March

When is bearded clam month?

garhkal
06-26-2015, 09:21 PM
What in the world is an equal opportunity ranking? Please Don't tell me that is an actual category on your evals now or something?

Its block 34 on the Naval Evaluation sheet, Equal opportunity.
A person who is a 1.0
-displays personal bias or engages in harassment
-tolerates bias, unfairness or harassment in subordinates
-lacks respect for EO objectives
-Interferes with good order and discipline by disregarding rights of others

A 3.0 ranking is
-Always treats others with fairness and respect
-does not condone bias or harassment in our out of the workplace
-Supports Navy EO objectives
-Contributes to unit cohesiveness and morale

A 5.0 ranking is
-Admired for fairness and human respect
-Ensures a climate for fairness and respect
-Proactive EO leader, Achieves concrete EO goals

IIRC the way the Eval manual read, if you did NOT attend all the EO functions (meaning the heritage months/history months) you could NEVER get rated above a 3.0. And to SOME you were not even worthy OF that 3.o unless you attended them. If you hosted/volunteered to help those events out though, you were 4.0 or higher.

That is why i felt that you were 'compelled' to attend the events "OR ELSE"..

Mjölnir
06-26-2015, 10:11 PM
IIRC the way the Eval manual read, if you did NOT attend all the EO functions (meaning the heritage months/history months) you could NEVER get rated above a 3.0. And to SOME you were not even worthy OF that 3.o unless you attended them. If you hosted/volunteered to help those events out though, you were 4.0 or higher.

That is why i felt that you were 'compelled' to attend the events "OR ELSE"..

Not true since at least 2003 when I came in the Navy, (covering three revisions of the PEM in 08, 11 & 15). There is no requirement in the USN Performance & Evaluation Manual on how attendance at any heritage / history months correlates to a marking in the EO block (I had heard the same gouge and tasked folks with finding that in there -- I had already read the thing cover to cover and knew it wasn't in there -- simply put ... that is bad gouge.) A marking of below 3.0 would require documentation and comments, so being marked below a 3.0 for not attending any of that would be very hard to justify and likely warrant a statement from the member reported on. The criteria for the EO has been defined (since I first read it in '04) as:


Equal Opportunity. Comment on initiative in supporting the Command Managed Equal Opportunity (CMEO) Program and maintaining an environment free of racial or sexual bias or harassment. Consider performance with respect to civilian employees as well as military members.


Now, the Reporting Senior can be subjective in how they define "supporting the Command Managed Equal Opportunity (CMEO) Program and maintaining an environment free of racial or sexual bias or harassment", but I will say I have only seen a 5.0 in EO if the individual was the CO, XO, CMC, CMEO / EEO or part of the Command Assessment team; generally it is hard to truly go above and beyond in EO if you are not somehow managing the program or leading folks on a large scale.

Now, if you felt compelled to attend, you may have had a pushy or overbearing LPO, LCPO etc., but they are certainly executing the intent of the PEM in taking "initiative in supporting the Command Managed Equal Opportunity" by talking up & offering personnel a chance to attend.

garhkal
06-27-2015, 04:09 AM
Not true since at least 2003 when I came in the Navy, (covering three revisions of the PEM in 08, 11 & 15). There is no requirement in the USN Performance & Evaluation Manual on how attendance at any heritage / history months correlates to a marking in the EO block (I had heard the same gouge and tasked folks with finding that in there -- I had already read the thing cover to cover and knew it wasn't in there -- simply put ... that is bad gouge.) A marking of below 3.0 would require documentation and comments, so being marked below a 3.0 for not attending any of that would be very hard to justify and likely warrant a statement from the member reported on. The criteria for the EO has been defined (since I first read it in '04) as:

It may not be in there but it is how many of my superiors did see it. Heck 2 flat out told us when he arrived in a Div-o call, that is HOW he grades that block.



Now, the Reporting Senior can be subjective in how they define "supporting the Command Managed Equal Opportunity (CMEO) Program and maintaining an environment free of racial or sexual bias or harassment", but I will say I have only seen a 5.0 in EO if the individual was the CO, XO, CMC, CMEO / EEO or part of the Command Assessment team; generally it is hard to truly go above and beyond in EO if you are not somehow managing the program or leading folks on a large scale.

Usually i have seen it that the only 5.0s were handed out to those who helped set up at least 5 or more of the heritage/history months in a calendar year. 2-5 got you a 4.0.


Now, if you felt compelled to attend, you may have had a pushy or overbearing LPO, LCPO etc., but they are certainly executing the intent of the PEM in taking "initiative in supporting the Command Managed Equal Opportunity" by talking up & offering personnel a chance to attend.g

It was mostly how i saw things coming down from our div officers and chiefs but occasionally from the Dep head level.

Mjölnir
06-27-2015, 04:59 AM
It may not be in there but it is how many of my superiors did see it. Heck 2 flat out told us when he arrived in a Div-o call, that is HOW he grades that block.

That may be how they (subjectively did it) but there has not been anything in the instruction directing it ... as I said, at least since the first PEM I read in 2004. But, I would really be surprised if that is really how it worked ... see below.


Usually i have seen it that the only 5.0s were handed out to those who helped set up at least 5 or more of the heritage/history months in a calendar year. 2-5 got you a 4.0.

g

It was mostly how i saw things coming down from our div officers and chiefs but occasionally from the Dep head level.

That would actually surprise me, for two reasons:

1. I have been attached to 7 sea commands, never have I seen a DIVO as a reporting senior (the one who the score actually belongs to.) Chiefs and DIVO's can be raters and senior raters, and by instruction MCPO's who are OIC's can be reporting seniors for E-5 and below only. Minimum grade requirements generally prohibit DIVO's from being a reporting senior. ENS, LTjg can't be reporting seniors, and LT's can if they are Department Heads, but only for junior Sailors. The rater and senior rater make recommendations, but that is all it is and is generally restricted by a reporting senior managing their cumulative trait average. As OPS on a DDG, I kicked back a bunch of evals that fell outside of my prescribed averages ... that score is mine to manage and follows me from command to command until I am gone from the Navy.

2. Usually the scores in blocks 33-39 are one of the last things that were actually completed. Every Eval cycle I have been involved in has followed the same procedure:

- Sailors were 'racked and stacked' via the QRB (in a group of 10 ... 1 to 10).
- Based on QRB standings the Sailors are divided into promotion recommendation groups (EP (1-3), MP (4-6), P (7-10) etc.)
- Upper and lower limits for the groups are established by the reporting senior (this is important -- see below)
- Traits are assigned to individuals IAW their standing in their summary groups, the goal being to have the MP's significantly above the average, the EP's slightly above or at the avg, and the P's generally being fodder for the numeric average.

Generally, EO & Military Bearing are the ones used to tweak the performance trait average. Big picture (and this is something I have seen that very, very few people really understand ... it doesn't matter if you get a 3 or 5 in block 35 or 36 ... or really any block ... what the CPO board is looking at (I have been a recorder for 2 ... so have seen this) is if your performance trait average is above your summary group and the reporting seniors cumulative average -- a trait average of 4.75 may sound great but isn't if the reporting seniors cumulative average is 4.83.

The reporting senior should be tracking what their cumulative average is, and that is why the RS tells the LCPO etc the range he wants his EP's, MP's and P's to be in -- if the average creeps too high it gets too hard to ID true hard chargers & those who are really a P Sailor.

So, to tie this back into the topic ... I have never in a QRB seen it discussed how many heritage month events a Sailor went to. Believe it or not they tended to focus on mission accomplishment, technical & tactical proficiency, leadership etc. Now, having overheard many conversations after Evals were debriefed to Sailors there are always people who bellyache about why so-and-so got an EP and they got a P. Yes, some people get screwed ... especially once they declare intent to separate since people start to posture other folks for promotion ... but generally people are real shitty assessors of their own shortcomings and try to find anything they can to not take a look at those shortcomings. How this applies to being the CMEO or EEO, Big Navy (& USAF, USA & USMC) say we will have the programs ... someone has to run them. If you and the guy running that program both are doing your job to the same level of proficiency and they have taken on a command collateral duty and you haven't ... I will rate them higher than you; no collateral duty overcomes not knowing your job, but at certain levels you are also expected to broaden yourself out.

I am an XO right now and this is a constant education to officers and CPO's who rely on rumor and 'sage knowledge' vice actually breaking out the instructions or volunteering to sit as part of a board for a few weeks.

Absinthe Anecdote
06-27-2015, 12:50 PM
It may not be in there but it is how many of my superiors did see it. Heck 2 flat out told us when he arrived in a Div-o call, that is HOW he grades that block.



Usually i have seen it that the only 5.0s were handed out to those who helped set up at least 5 or more of the heritage/history months in a calendar year. 2-5 got you a 4.0.

g

It was mostly how i saw things coming down from our div officers and chiefs but occasionally from the Dep head level.

Are you fibbing on any of this? My bullshit detector is going off.

garhkal
06-27-2015, 08:21 PM
That may be how they (subjectively did it) but there has not been anything in the instruction directing it ... as I said, at least since the first PEM I read in 2004. But, I would really be surprised if that is really how it worked ... see below.



As i said, its what i saw, so whether it was right or not, its how i perceived things to be.


Are you fibbing on any of this? My bullshit detector is going off.

Nope. Heck for the 4 JSOQ, three SOQ and 3 SOY boards i sat in on, some of the consistent things that were brought up as 'separators' were how much volunteer time *both off base, and on base for the heritage months), how many heritage months they attended/helped set up, and what college courses they were taking.

And in several cases, even with someone who had lots of college/off base volunteer time, it seemed to come down to how many heritage/history months they helped out with (all else being equal).

Mjölnir
06-27-2015, 10:48 PM
As i said, its what i saw, so whether it was right or not, its how i perceived things to be.

I get that. I don't know how many times I have told people who thought their LPO or LCPO ... or DIVO etc. could deny their leave ... turns out that while DIVO's could approve up to 3 days, DH's up to 7 and the XO up to 14 ... the only person who could say 'no' was the CO ... but everyone perceived something different.

How things are and how they are supposed to be aren't always in alignment; being able to ID when they are not makes things a lot easier.

garhkal
06-28-2015, 11:46 AM
That it does. I know the thing on leave denial from first hand experience. Was a lowly E4 on my first ship when it first happened. Initially i was bummed till one of my E5s let me know the div o and even the ops o, couldn't deny it. Only the CO could.

Bos Mutus
07-02-2015, 11:03 PM
At one of my assignments, commanders were expected to attend all "Fill in the Blank" Heritage Months luncheons. I think it was the Asian Pacific lunch, I was forced to fill in for my commander, sit in my chair, eat my Asian munchies, and maintain a smile on my face. Actually, there was a speaker who was pretty good.

Anyway, I think it's pretty sad that a) the military has to jump on the "Fill in the Blank" Heritage Month wagon, and b) ORDERS its leaders to attend these events, no matter what their personal feelings are. Can't the military just focus on MILITARY stuff?

"It's absurd to believe that soldiers who can not be made to eat a plate of lumpia and fried rice can be induced to move forward in battle. Officers who fail to perform their duty by enforcing proper conduct are incapable of leading" Gen George S. Patton