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garhkal
07-07-2014, 08:24 PM
Just saw this mentioned on the GOPUSA site, so had to look for other news sites to confirm it. Only 2 sites i could see were a pair of christian news sites..

So what is everyone's thoughts on Chase doing this?
Right or wrong that they ask whether everyone supports LGBT rights?

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/07/02/gaystapo-strikes-again-chase-bank-asks-employees-to-declare-loyalty-to-lgbt/

http://tnchristiannews.wordpress.com/2014/07/07/us-largest-bank-asks-workers-if-they-support-homosexuality/

Does anyone thing that if someone DID check no they don't support it, that they would get fired?

Measure Man
07-07-2014, 08:34 PM
Just saw this mentioned on the GOPUSA site, so had to look for other news sites to confirm it. Only 2 sites i could see were a pair of christian news sites..

So what is everyone's thoughts on Chase doing this?

Can't say...but, since it is combined with disabilities, can only assume it has something to do with the company finding out how many people might be impacted by policies and procedures regarding disabilities and LGBTs


Right or wrong that they ask whether everyone supports LGBT rights?

Wrong.


http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/07/02/gaystapo-strikes-again-chase-bank-asks-employees-to-declare-loyalty-to-lgbt/

http://tnchristiannews.wordpress.com/2014/07/07/us-largest-bank-asks-workers-if-they-support-homosexuality/

Does anyone thing that if someone DID check no they don't support it, that they would get fired?

No, I don't think anyone is getting fired over this.

I think the intent, seems to be, similar to the disability part...asking if they person is personally disabled, and/or has a family member with disabilities, but was a poorly worded attempt to ask if the person is close to someone in the LGBT community, i.e. family member, but the wording around spouse, etc. got tricky.

Does anyone think a Chase employee will get fired for NOT having a spouse/domestic partner who is disabled?

But...who knows...generally though, these type articles designed to induce outrage are way overblown and distorted...and the fear is unfounded.

But, I don't get it...don't you usually say, "If the employees don't like it, quit and work somewhere else..."? Shouldn't they just go work for Hobby Lobby or Chick Fil-A if they don't like their companies opinions? [/satire]

Chris_1991-2011
07-08-2014, 02:25 AM
So what is everyone's thoughts on Chase doing this?
Right or wrong that they ask whether everyone supports LGBT rights?

Does anyone thing that if someone DID check no they don't support it, that they would get fired?

I’m not completely sold on if Chase is actually doing this or not.

The second site you provided, Tennessee Christian News, starts their article off with “The largest bank in the US now allegedly requires it’s employees to state whether or not they are supporters of the homosexual lifestyle, Christian News Network reports.” With only two employees contacting Princeton University Professor Robert George, who has been called America’s “most influential conservative Christian thinker,” I believe allegedly is the correct term to use in this situation. Doesn’t necessarily mean they’re wrong because there are only 2 of them, it just doesn’t seem to be concrete, definite, or factual. (Time will tell.)

The article from the other link, Fellowship of the Minds, uses “Gaystapo strikes again: Chase Bank asks employees to declare loyalty to LGBT.” Hmmm seems a bit…over the top…sensationalized…maybe even a little inflammatory which for me brings its credibility down to nothing. Then there’s the picture, a pink tank with the words “Gaystapo USA.” In the picture, the O in Gaystapo is the Obama logo/symbol from the ’08 presidential campaign. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama_logo) Is Obama behind this? (Time to start Googling.) In the article they reference a former CEO of Mozilla that was, apparently, “hounded out of the CEO role for not supporting LGBT marriage.” What does that have to do with Chase? Nothing. Given all of that, it’s hard for me to take anything on this site seriously or as legitimate or factual.

I feel it’s wrong for an employer to ask their employees what their sexual orientation is and/or if they’re an “ally” of a specific sexual orientation. It’s none of their business.

I do not think people will get fired for answering that they do or don’t support the LGBT community. On what grounds could they be fired? Would Chase want to risk the possibility of a lawsuit(s)? The people in the articles that are afraid of being fired may be a bit delusional and/or paranoid.

From http://christiannews.net/2014/07/07/chilling-implications-largest-u-s-bank-asks-workers-if-they-support-homosexuality/:


George agreed, writing in a blog post that JPMorgan Chase could quickly quash any dissenters who do not support the homosexual lifestyle.

“The message to all employees is perfectly clear: You are expected to fall into line with the approved and required thinking,” George stated. “Nothing short of assent is acceptable. Silent dissent will no longer be permitted.”


I fail to see how the “message to all employees is perfectly clear,” unless you have an fill in the blank agenda and read between the lines of the article.

As is with all of my opinions/assumptions, I could be wrong about the whole issue.

garhkal
07-08-2014, 05:23 AM
Was wondering if there was any other news for this. Still am not seeing other sites asking about it..

WILDJOKER5
07-08-2014, 12:08 PM
Wonder if there would be any ruckus over a questionaire about if you support Obama or not?

MitchellJD1969
07-08-2014, 12:41 PM
I do not think people will get fired for answering that they do or don’t support the LGBT community. On what grounds could they be fired? Would Chase want to risk the possibility of a lawsuit(s)? The people in the articles that are afraid of being fired may be a bit delusional and/or paranoid.

Yeah go tell that to Brenden Eich that was forced out at Mozilla when it was found out that he contributed money in support of Prop 8 out in California.

garhkal
07-08-2014, 06:51 PM
Wonder if there would be any ruckus over a questionaire about if you support Obama or not?

Or as i posted on the GOPUSA thread, whether you are an NRA or ACLU supporter/donator.

MikeKerriii
07-10-2014, 11:03 PM
Yeah go tell that to Brenden Eich that was forced out at Mozilla when it was found out that he contributed money in support of Prop 8 out in California.

Eich was lost his job becasue he took actions that were intended to personally harm many of the people that worked for him. Those people did npot want to work with a bigot that publicly showed that he did not want them to have basic rights, If you are a CEO getting caught being pond scum makes it hard to stay employed. Especially when you are at a not for profit and a significant part of your workforce are people you attacked