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Gonzo432
11-11-2013, 11:50 AM
Well, I'll see your fake poker chips and clubbing a Disney employee with a PVC pipe and raise you this! It wasn't espionage, it was just good old fashioned greed. Will this guy get thrown under the bus (or boat) OR, will the big brass circle the wagons (and fleet) around "their boy" (as in Kip Wilson AFRICOM debacle)?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/11/two-admirals-face-probe-in-navy-bribery-scheme/

waveshaper2
11-11-2013, 02:00 PM
So two more rogue seafarers may end up having to walk the plank. I hope that when the good Vice Admiral was the CO of the USS Nimitz he was sharing his hornswaggled, ill-gotten BOOTY with his crew. If he was sharing, then I am sure the morale of his shipmates was extremely high during his tenure as CO of USS Nimitz and its ensuing "ports-of-call" tour of Asia.

Bunch
11-11-2013, 02:13 PM
Seems like Navy leadership is trying to out embarass Air Force and Army leadership.

Greg
11-11-2013, 02:47 PM
Seems like Navy leadership is trying to out embarass Air Force and Army leadership.

Well, squids are known to be a little more spirited.

BURAWSKI
11-11-2013, 03:37 PM
Well, squids are known to be a little more spirited.

Interesting that there are reports that there may be more officers implicated. I am surprised to see these high level officers involved, and working in the intelligence field. I wonder exactly how they became compromised.

Greg
11-11-2013, 09:55 PM
Interesting that there are reports that there may be more officers implicated. I am surprised to see these high level officers involved, and working in the intelligence field. I wonder exactly how they became compromised.

And does anyone wonder why this nation is TARFU, and fast approaching FUBAR.

Stalwart
11-12-2013, 02:11 PM
... and working in the intelligence field. I wonder exactly how they became compromised ...

It is pretty sad indeed that it would be anyone getting caught up in this. From what I read the investigation is looking at activity that took place before either of them were flags. Only one is an intelligence officer though. VADM Branch is an aviator who currently is the Deputy CNO for the IDC / Intel; He has never had an intelligence job before. RDML Loveless is the career intel officer. I am not sure if their career paths crossed earlier (at the time of the actitivity being investigted) or it is just coincidence that both are connected to the intelligence community now.

technomage1
11-12-2013, 03:43 PM
Greed is nothing new.

Rear Admiral W.L. Erdmann, upon retiring from the Navy in 1960, smuggled 42 cases of duty free whiskey from his last (overseas) posting in his HHG. He was caught, indicted, plead guilty and fined $15,000 but got to keep his retirement. That's over $118k in today's money.

Anyhow, corruption and abuse of authority have been around for a while. I'm sure there are much older cases to, this just caught my eye.

Found a link with a period newspaper article if anyone is interested. It was 504 bottles and the tipster was an enlisted man....


http://fultonhistory.com/newspaper%2010/Yonkers%20NY%20Herald%20Statesman/Yonkers%20NY%20Herald%20Statesman%201960%20Graysca le/Yonkers%20NY%20Herald%20Statesman%201960%20Graysca le%20-%206626.pdf

Stalwart
11-12-2013, 04:40 PM
technomage1 +1, good find.

Chief Bosun
11-12-2013, 04:49 PM
Concur - greed is nothing new, nor are the ways it is satisfied.

What I am wondering now is how far back in time this will go, and how many retired senior officers are going to be found culpable with regard to their dealings with this company.

Stalwart
11-13-2013, 02:05 PM
I guess three civilians working in the Navy intelligence establishment are being investigated for something unrealted:

Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/senior-navy-civilians-investigated-in-alleged-scheme-to-defraud-military-for-16-million/2013/11/12/74383ffa-4bbb-11e3-9890-a1e0997fb0c0_story.html

Chief Bosun
11-14-2013, 02:52 PM
Saw that one in the Post myself.

It'll be interesting to see how that plays out, especially if it turns out a couple of those items got diverted and no one caught on to it.

navyskcs
11-14-2013, 10:50 PM
So two more rogue seafarers may end up having to walk the plank. I hope that when the good Vice Admiral was the CO of the USS Nimitz he was sharing his hornswaggled, ill-gotten BOOTY with his crew. If he was sharing, then I am sure the morale of his shipmates was extremely high during his tenure as CO of USS Nimitz and its ensuing "ports-of-call" tour of Asia.


Branch was my CO on NIMITZ during the 2005 cruise. He didn't share any of his "booty" as you call it with us and our morale was acutally pretty high during that cruise. He was a pretty fair, no-nonsense guy who got the mission done.

Misiewicz was our CSO on Lake Champlain. He was a bumbling idiot back then and I have no idea how he screened for XO and CO. No surprise that he is wrapped up in this.

Lenard Francis was the Husbanding Agent for several Port Visits on 3 of my ships over the years. He was shady guy. Being in S-1, we had to pay the invoices and we would always question alot of the charges, but those questions always fell on deaf ears at the servicing NRCC (Singapore) at the time. Francis would always demand his payment in cash and I can remember him walking off the brow with $150K from the Disbo's safe during one port visit.

Funny how life comes around full circle sometimes......