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Absinthe Anecdote
11-07-2013, 01:14 PM
I am always suspicious of charities and seldom donate to them. I usually think that charities associated with wildlife or animal rights are big scams, but even major cancer charities and children's charities have ripped off millions of dollars from generous people.

Veterans charities are no different; be careful who you give money to.

Man Accused Of Siphoning Millions From Fake Veterans' Charity

NPR
by SCOTT NEUMAN
September 30, 201312:42 PM

An ex-military intelligence officer who prosecutors say siphoned millions from a bogus charity for U.S. Navy veterans is going on trial in Ohio.

The 67-year-old defendant calls himself Bobby Thompson, but authorities say his real name is John Donald Cody. He was arrested last year in Portland, Ore., after two years on the run, and is charged with masterminding a $100 million multistate fraud using a charity called United States Veterans Association, based in Tampa, Fla.

Thompson, who worked in military intelligence in the 1970s and is described as a Harvard-trained lawyer, has claimed in court filings that he's still working as a "nonofficial cover" agent for the CIA, and that the charity is part of a secret operation.

The Tampa Bay Times reports that "in a handwritten court motion, Thompson alleged that the Tampa charity was not a criminal enterprise but 'a U.S. intelligence community/White House and Republican Party manipulated operation.' "

Thompson faces up to 40 years in prison if convicted of the fraud. Prosecutors say the charity he ran "turned out to be a total charade," according to the Times:

"Its state chapters were mail drops, its directors nonexistent. It gave little aid to veterans.
"During the trial, which is expected to last at least six weeks, prosecutors say they'll show that Thompson siphoned money from the charity's accounts for personal use and used dozens of stolen identities to cover his tracks.

"But Thompson, who ran Navy Veterans from a roach-infested duplex in Ybor City, yet became a major Republican donor and had his picture taken — twice — with President George W. Bush, has a different explanation."

This article has more details:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/mystery-man-bobby-thompson-blames-cia-for-bogus-charity/2144548

garhkal
11-07-2013, 05:12 PM
Up to 40 yrs for this level of fraud.. Na. Lets punish him in accordance with Sharia law.. CUT HIS HANDS OFF!

Measure Man
11-07-2013, 05:19 PM
I'm of the opinion that most charities nowadays are fraudulent.

If not out and out frauds...they do minimal actual good while the directors and staff earn huge salaries.

CYBERFX1024
11-07-2013, 05:25 PM
I'm of the opinion that most charities nowadays are fraudulent.
If not out and out frauds...they do minimal actual good while the directors and staff earn huge salaries.

I am in firm agreement with you on this. That's why before I donate to a veteran's nonprofit I take a hard look at it. Because every nonprofit is required to post how much of every dollar donated actually goes to helping people.

Measure Man
11-07-2013, 05:27 PM
Because every nonprofit is required to post how much of every donated actually goes to helping people.

I can't cite any specific examples right now...I'm also suspicious that they take significant liberty with the definition of what is "helping people."

CYBERFX1024
11-07-2013, 07:48 PM
I can't cite any specific examples right now...I'm also suspicious that they take significant liberty with the definition of what is "helping people."

I do to. But what they usually have a percentage of what every dollar goes to. There was a post going around on fb about certain good Veterans charities.

Absinthe Anecdote
11-07-2013, 08:20 PM
I am tempted to start some bullshit charity for educating people on organic food or starting a language center to teach people how to speak dolphin language.

That or some new age crystal bullshit church.

Measure Man
11-07-2013, 08:42 PM
I am tempted to start some bullshit charity for educating people on organic food or starting a language center to teach people how to speak dolphin language.

That or some new age crystal bullshit church.

Measure Man's Home for Wayward Women.

click here to donate: :why:

BENDER56
11-07-2013, 10:45 PM
I'm of the opinion that most charities nowadays are fraudulent.

If not out and out frauds...they do minimal actual good while the directors and staff earn huge salaries.

Many aren't fraudulent and provide a valuable service, but here's a list of the worst from a Tampa Bay Times investigation earlier this year.

http://www.tampabay.com/americas-worst-charities/

Notice how many of them are purportedly for children and cancer.

Measure Man
11-07-2013, 10:50 PM
Many aren't fraudulent and provide a valuable service, but here's a list of the worst from a Tampa Bay Times investigation earlier this year.

http://www.tampabay.com/americas-worst-charities/

Notice how many of them are purportedly for children and cancer.

Emerson self-licking ice cream cones, right there.

Absinthe Anecdote
11-08-2013, 12:10 AM
Emerson self-licking ice cream cones, right there.

Huh?

Emerson as in Ralph Waldo Emerson or the electronics manufacturer?

Measure Man
11-08-2013, 12:16 AM
Huh?

Emerson as in Ralph Waldo Emerson or the electronics manufacturer?

Them are some...colloquially.

"A study of Breasts" by Emerson Biggens.

GoatDriver57
01-30-2014, 03:56 PM
It seems by these fast sprouting fake orgs if the 'veteran' word is in its title, its an auto cash cow. For instant, WWA (Wreaths Across America) pull on the former service member, dead veteran relatives and friends heart strings to order these special sized expensive wreaths through the WWA organization, WWA orders the wreaths thru Wal Mart, Wal Mart trucks the wreaths to the national cemeteries. Before the wreath delivery date, WWA has sent out notices to the local community humanitarian groups (free labor) to meet at the cemetery on a certain Sat to place their wreaths and more across the garden. In six weeks are so the request is sent out for/to the same community groups (free labor) meet to clear these wreaths.
Point is, I would bet there isn't one dead vet in any of these cemeteries would go for this scam. Christmas time is when there are so many charity orgs pleading for donations to support the living, needing ones, especially older, sick, young jobless vets. The US veteran, living and dead had just received a full week of recognition in Nov, the respect was rendered and received graciously by most. Those expensive wreaths last only a few weeks, where as if the funds had been donated for an example, to a org that replaced veteran's roofs, the new roof shingles would be good for at least 10-15 years. Yes, the green wreaths on the white stones make a beautiful post card but is a major waste of funds, land-fill material, free labor so WWA can run with their profits. These fraudulent, phony Vet orgs are growing in numbers on the backs of the heroes and sweat from this countries best. Wish it wasn't so, but thats the way it is going.

garhkal
01-30-2014, 07:04 PM
So goat.. what do you feel should get done TO those fake orgs?

GoatDriver57
01-31-2014, 04:56 AM
So goat.. what do you feel should get done TO those fake orgs?

Gar, that is a good question. For you, I would suggest, if there is a judgement involved, use your best one. :).

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