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imported_StandardsAMust
08-09-2013, 11:20 AM
Okay...who can honestly say that there are 1.2 million Airmen in the Air Force? Are you kidding me?

So, the AFT runs this headline:

30,000 airmen have failed waist tape since 2010

Of the 1,277,826 airmen who have taken the PT test between October 2010 and March, a total of 30,174 have failed the waist measurement component of the test, according to the Air Force, which could not say by deadline if those airmen were counted once or every time they failed the test.

LOL...our Air Force can't even count these beans correctly. What a shame.

http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20130808/NEWS/308080044/30-000-airmen-failed-waist-tape-since-2010

imported_KnuckleDragger
08-09-2013, 11:33 AM
That is some horrible "journalism."

I'm guessing 1,277,826 tests have been administered in that timeframe, and there were 30,174 with failing waists.

akruse
08-09-2013, 12:06 PM
I read it as a million tests administered.

imported_StandardsAMust
08-09-2013, 12:45 PM
I read it as a million tests administered.

If we assume this, and I am, then 30k of 300k means 10% have failed the waist...that's 1 in 10 Airmen failing the waist measurement, but then, it is most likely the same people failing that test often. Who knows? I look around and I think that number should be higher.

akruse
08-09-2013, 12:47 PM
If we assume this, and I am, then 30k of 300k means 10% have failed the waist...that's 1 in 10 Airmen failing the waist measurement. I look around and I think that number should be higher.

You're not seeing the bigger picture. Different pots of money. Have faith in the system. It's above your paygrade. And so on.....

Absinthe Anecdote
08-09-2013, 01:14 PM
I can see 1.2 million individuals being in the Air Force since 2010 as a possibility. As long as you aren't counting whose getting out and just looking at it from the perspective of how many people who have taken the test.

BENDER56
08-09-2013, 02:10 PM
I can see 1.2 million individuals being in the Air Force since 2010 as a possibility. As long as you aren't counting whose getting out and just looking at it from the perspective of how many people who have taken the test.

Nah, with the AF in the low 300K range for the past few years, that would mean around 100% turnover every year since 2010. I'm guessing the 1.2 million figure reflects our normal turnover rate plus the fact that the same individuals have tested at least once per year.

CJSmith
08-09-2013, 02:16 PM
Nah, with the AF in the low 300K range for the past few years, that would mean around 100% turnover every year since 2010. I'm guessing the 1.2 million figure reflects our normal turnover rate plus the fact that the same individuals have tested at least once per year.

Don't forget Guard and Reserve.

CJSmith
08-09-2013, 02:22 PM
To add to my previous comment. ANG, AFRC and AD comes out to half a million people. Over a three year stretch, depending on how they are reporting the numbers, it could be correct.

But remember, 3 out of 2 people have trouble with fractions.

BENDER56
08-09-2013, 02:32 PM
Don't forget Guard and Reserve.

Yeah, but they all look as though they've never had their waists measured.

LogDog
08-09-2013, 06:11 PM
Okay...who can honestly say that there are 1.2 million Airmen in the Air Force? Are you kidding me?

So, the AFT runs this headline:

30,000 airmen have failed waist tape since 2010

Of the 1,277,826 airmen who have taken the PT test between October 2010 and March, a total of 30,174 have failed the waist measurement component of the test, according to the Air Force, which could not say by deadline if those airmen were counted once or every time they failed the test.

LOL...our Air Force can't even count these beans correctly. What a shame.

http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20130808/NEWS/308080044/30-000-airmen-failed-waist-tape-since-2010
I think they meant the number of tape tests made. If you add up the following figures and figure at least 3 tape measures per person then the figure is probably close to being accurate.

Active Duty - 330,000
ANG - 107,000
Total 437,000
X 3 = 1,311,000

Gonzo432
08-10-2013, 01:39 AM
What we have here, is a journalism major trying to do math. This is just sad.

sandsjames
08-10-2013, 01:15 PM
I think they meant the number of tape tests made. If you add up the following figures and figure at least 3 tape measures per person then the figure is probably close to being accurate.

Active Duty - 330,000
ANG - 107,000
Total 437,000
X 3 = 1,311,000

Also add in that many test twice a year and some have to retest every 90 days. Number sounds pretty close to me.

imported_StandardsAMust
08-11-2013, 12:38 PM
I think they meant the number of tape tests made. If you add up the following figures and figure at least 3 tape measures per person then the figure is probably close to being accurate.

Active Duty - 330,000
ANG - 107,000
Total 437,000
X 3 = 1,311,000

If these numbers are included, then the waist measurement busts should be 137,000...lol!