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Pullinteeth
07-01-2013, 03:40 PM
Apparently the resucers can sue because those lost were in possession of illegal drugs? I don't get it.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/30/california-responders-suing-teen-hikers-for-recovery-costs-medical-bills/?test=latestnews

Juggs
07-01-2013, 04:35 PM
Apparently the resucers can sue because those lost were in possession of illegal drugs? I don't get it.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/30/california-responders-suing-teen-hikers-for-recovery-costs-medical-bills/?test=latestnews

If they were using while hiking I would understand, but in the car doesnt constitute use at the time of the incident.

Pullinteeth
07-01-2013, 05:52 PM
If they were using while hiking I would understand, but in the car doesnt constitute use at the time of the incident.

I don't. Just because someone is high means they are unworthy of rescue? What if they were suffering from a mental condition, failed to take their meds and got lost, would THEY be worthy of getting rescued? What if they had gotten drunk and got lost? Are drunks worthy? It isn't like they were hiding at home watching and laughing as the rescuer fell and broke his back...they were friggin lost!

Juggs
07-01-2013, 05:57 PM
Never said they werent worthy. What im getting at is tax payers shouldnt have to foot the bill for a drunk crashing or getting lost. Some high hikers should have to foot the bill when when the victim becomes lost or disoriented due to illegal activites or through blatant execution of poor judgement.

As for the person with mental issues being off meds requiring a rescue I think you can answer that one.

That scenario actually gets played out every now and then.

garhkal
07-01-2013, 07:44 PM
Just like some of us have called for the govt to start requiring those who fail to heed warnings to evacuate, and as such need to get rescued should be made to pay for it, so too should those who get stranded while high..

Juggs
07-03-2013, 07:07 PM
Apparently he didnt get the responses he thought he would.

Banned
07-03-2013, 07:13 PM
Never said they werent worthy. What im getting at is tax payers shouldnt have to foot the bill for a drunk crashing or getting lost. Some high hikers should have to foot the bill when when the victim becomes lost or disoriented due to illegal activites or through blatant execution of poor judgement.

As for the person with mental issues being off meds requiring a rescue I think you can answer that one.

That scenario actually gets played out every now and then.

^This is probably the reasoning behind the case... also in the context of the rescuer who got seriously injured trying to find these idiots.

Pullinteeth
07-08-2013, 01:24 PM
Apparently he didnt get the responses he thought he would.

??? What do you mean by that?

I just don't get it. People get lost all the time because of stupidity. The article didn't even say that these guys were stoned when they got lost...just that they had drugs in the car.

CYBERFX1024
07-08-2013, 02:04 PM
Apparently the resucers can sue because those lost were in possession of illegal drugs? I don't get it.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/30/california-responders-suing-teen-hikers-for-recovery-costs-medical-bills/?test=latestnews

Ok, I am living in SoCal right now, and when this happened a few months ago. You could not go anywhere without finding it on the news, because they sent out a massive search and rescue effort to find these two people which one man fell a few hundred feet off the side of a ravine looking for them.
Plus there were responses after they were found and in the hospital about there time led alot of people (including myself) to believe that they were were on something. When you are having hallucinations about snakes eating you and tigers chasing you. Then that means that they had a bad trip.
Also they went out hiking and brought 1 bottle of water. WTF kind of sense does that make? It made alot of people very suspicious in the beginning.

Pullinteeth
07-08-2013, 02:25 PM
Ok, I am living in SoCal right now, and when this happened a few months ago. You could not go anywhere without finding it on the news, because they sent out a massive search and rescue effort to find these two people which one man fell a few hundred feet off the side of a ravine looking for them.
Plus there were responses after they were found and in the hospital about there time led alot of people (including myself) to believe that they were were on something. When you are having hallucinations about snakes eating you and tigers chasing you. Then that means that they had a bad trip.
Also they went out hiking and brought 1 bottle of water. WTF kind of sense does that make? It made alot of people very suspicious in the beginning.

Even if they were high as a kite, I am not sure they are financially responsible. How exactly does a Victim's Bill of Rights provide justification for this lawsuit? I could see the guy who fell being able to sue using Marsy's law but Orange County Fire Authority? They are victims? Wouldn't that indicate some intent on the part of the lost hikers?

CYBERFX1024
07-08-2013, 03:04 PM
Even if they were high as a kite, I am not sure they are financially responsible. How exactly does a Victim's Bill of Rights provide justification for this lawsuit? I could see the guy who fell being able to sue using Marsy's law but Orange County Fire Authority? They are victims? Wouldn't that indicate some intent on the part of the lost hikers?

I was trying to figure out why they can try to charge them for $55k. But from what I can gather there is a loophole for the OCFA to be to recoup those charges.

For the record they were NOT hikers. Hikers actually take the needed provisions. They were just a couple of people who wanted to go get high and probably have sex. For the record they were less than 1 mile from there vehicle.

If he had heard some of the 911 call you would have definitely thought they were fu*ked up.

Mr. Squid
07-08-2013, 04:22 PM
For all the money and injuries incurred over a couple of kids getting royally f.cked up, they need to pay for something. I hope there's no prison time for anyone, but there's definitely some debt to be paid.

CYBERFX1024
07-08-2013, 05:40 PM
For all the money and injuries incurred over a couple of kids getting royally f.cked up, they need to pay for something. I hope there's no prison time for anyone, but there's definitely some debt to be paid.

That is what the general consensus was here in the OC and LA area. Basically they should have paid for something but Orange County wasn't sure at the time if it is legal. But I guess they found out that it was and is seeking the money.

garhkal
07-08-2013, 07:40 PM
Though if they are stoners, i doubt they have the 55k lying around to pay the bill.

Juggs
07-08-2013, 11:49 PM
Even if they were high as a kite, I am not sure they are financially responsible. How exactly does a Victim's Bill of Rights provide justification for this lawsuit? I could see the guy who fell being able to sue using Marsy's law but Orange County Fire Authority? They are victims? Wouldn't that indicate some intent on the part of the lost hikers?

Because through their illegal activities they're responsible for those assets being deployed. They're idiots and druggie criminals. Maybe if we did more of this we wouldnt have so many incidents of morons going out into the woods while tripping.

Juggs
07-08-2013, 11:49 PM
Though if they are stoners, i doubt they have the 55k lying around to pay the bill.

Easy fix to the that. Dont be retards.

garhkal
07-09-2013, 05:11 AM
Exactly!

Pullinteeth
07-10-2013, 01:35 PM
Because through their illegal activities they're responsible for those assets being deployed. They're idiots and druggie criminals. Maybe if we did more of this we wouldnt have so many incidents of morons going out into the woods while tripping.

So if you didn't pay your taxes and got lost in the woods, they should be able to sue you for your rescue costs? What if you had an open speeding ticket? Parking ticket? The contention wasn't being made that they were stoned when they got lost, just that there were drugs in the car....

Juggs
07-10-2013, 01:38 PM
Taxes pay for those assets. Maybe they should have to pay for those assets if they havent been paying taxes.