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BOSS302
06-14-2013, 09:13 AM
The United States has conclusive evidence that Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime has used chemical weapons against rebel forces and is now proposing a no-fly zone in the country. The use of weapons such as the nerve agent sarin crosses what President Barack Obama has called a 'red line' that would trigger greater American involvement in the crisis. According to the Wall Street Journal, the White House is now considering arming the opposition fighters and enforcing a no-fly zone that could cost an estimated $50 million a day.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2341361/U-S-proposes-50MILLION-A-DAY-fly-zone-Syria-finding-proof-government-used-chemical-weapons-rebels.html

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I wonder which "Basic Mission Ready" fighter squadrons will get into this fracas?

Will the USAF put its F-22 Raptors up against the S-300 (SA-10 Grumble, NATO name) missile system? It is regarded as one of the most (if not the most) potent anti-air missile defense systems in the world today.

How will the U.S. deal with the twelve Russian warships already in Syrian waters?

CJSmith
06-14-2013, 10:41 AM
Looks like they'll need to re-look at those promotion rates. Downsizing might not come after all.

BOSS302
06-14-2013, 10:47 AM
Looks like they'll need to re-look at those promotion rates. Downsizing might not come after all.

I have a feeling diplomacy is going to "win". As hard and dangerous as Russia is (and as hungry as China is), they will not risk a toe-to-toe conflict with the United States. Russia will not risk being put in a position where its warships challenge the U.S. Navy or its missile systems are responsible for the downing of NATO jets.

Or would they? Russia did kick Georgia's ass pretty hard with U.S. "observers/trainers" in the thick of it and did seize a lot of U.S. hardware that had been donated to Georgia (mostly armored vehicles).

This will be very interesting. I sincerely hope diplomacy works so that the bombs and fighter jets don't have to.

imported_oih82w8
06-14-2013, 01:03 PM
From what I heard on the news this morning, John McCain stated (paraphrasing) that we can immobilize their Air Force without having any of our troops in the area by sending some cruise missiles in to "pot-hole" their runways. He also said something about moving Patriot Missile Batteries closer too.

71Fish
06-14-2013, 01:07 PM
I have a feeling diplomacy is going to "win". As hard and dangerous as Russia is (and as hungry as China is), they will not risk a toe-to-toe conflict with the United States. Russia will not risk being put in a position where its warships challenge the U.S. Navy or its missile systems are responsible for the downing of NATO jets.

Or would they? Russia did kick Georgia's ass pretty hard with U.S. "observers/trainers" in the thick of it and did seize a lot of U.S. hardware that had been donated to Georgia (mostly armored vehicles).

This will be very interesting. I sincerely hope diplomacy works so that the bombs and fighter jets don't have to.

China holds way too much US debt to want a fight, regardless of them maybe wanting to show military prowess. Russia could go either way, but they are heavily vested in Syria. Long history their.

As for the red line. It's a non-committed red line. Nothing will happen other than more harsh condemnation.

raustin0017
06-14-2013, 01:59 PM
With Afghanistan winding down...the US will get involved with the conflict. More than 7K have died and we will take a stand. We brought down Qadhafi & Saddam...next will be Assad. Assad is Iran's closest ally and host terrorist groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas. NO FLY zone will be the first step leading to more support for the opposition. Besides...action would take the press focus away from current scandals such as Benghazi and the IRS.

BOSS302
06-14-2013, 02:09 PM
With Afghanistan winding down...the US will get involved with the conflict. More than 7K have died and we will take a stand. We brought down Qadhafi & Saddam...next will be Assad. Assad is Iran's closest ally and host terrorist groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas. NO FLY zone will be the first step leading to more support for the opposition. Besides...action would take the press focus away from current scandals such as Benghazi and the IRS.

The "Free Syrian Army" is quickly proving itself to be nothing more than a jigsaw puzzle set of different Islamist sects. Groups such as the al Qaeda-linked Jabhat al-Nusra are making dominant inroads into the "Free Syrian Army." They are running neck-and-neck with the Syrian Arab Army for atrocities committed in this civil war.

This is a civil war between the idiot Assad and the idiot Islamists. It is time we and other powers let the idiots do & die.

raustin0017
06-14-2013, 02:43 PM
The "Free Syrian Army" is quickly proving itself to be nothing more than a jigsaw puzzle set of different Islamist sects. Groups such as the al Qaeda-linked Jabhat al-Nusra are making dominant inroads into the "Free Syrian Army." They are running neck-and-neck with the Syrian Arab Army for atrocities committed in this civil war.

This is a civil war between the idiot Assad and the idiot Islamists. It is time we and other powers let the idiots do & die.

Correct! But you know it is just a matter of time before we get more involved...we always do.

VFFTSGT
06-14-2013, 05:58 PM
link coming

grimreaper
06-14-2013, 05:58 PM
The United States has conclusive evidence that Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime has used chemical weapons against rebel forces and is now proposing a no-fly zone in the country. The use of weapons such as the nerve agent sarin crosses what President Barack Obama has called a 'red line' that would trigger greater American involvement in the crisis. According to the Wall Street Journal, the White House is now considering arming the opposition fighters and enforcing a no-fly zone that could cost an estimated $50 million a day.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2341361/U-S-proposes-50MILLION-A-DAY-fly-zone-Syria-finding-proof-government-used-chemical-weapons-rebels.html

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I wonder which "Basic Mission Ready" fighter squadrons will get into this fracas?

Will the USAF put its F-22 Raptors up against the S-300 (SA-10 Grumble, NATO name) missile system? It is regarded as one of the most (if not the most) potent anti-air missile defense systems in the world today.

How will the U.S. deal with the twelve Russian warships already in Syrian waters?


It looks like we may be getting ready to supply these "rebels" a.k.a Al-Qaeda supporters with weapons and other materiel support. That sounds like a great idea! I mean what could go wrong? It's not like they are the same kind of people we helped in Libya who attacked one of our diplomatic outposts and killed our ambassador and other Americans or anything.

BRUWIN
06-14-2013, 06:01 PM
I find it ironic that Bill Clinton called out Obama after he let OBL run around the world blowing shit up for his entire 8 years.

VFFTSGT
06-14-2013, 06:09 PM
http://youtu.be/6TgqVeKRaAU

imported_SergeantJack
06-16-2013, 05:53 PM
So glad I'm retired.

efmbman
06-16-2013, 07:12 PM
He also said something about moving Patriot Missile Batteries closer too.

That part concerns me because those batteries are manned by troops. Eventually, there will be an incident with those troops (either real or "reported"). That will lead to a response by the US. This is where it gets confusing because I am not entirely sure there would be a response considering there was no respond to the murder of our Ambassador.

Too bad there is not a USS Maddox currently at sea. It would be very fitting to have a ship named USS Maddox involved in this.


So glad I'm retired.

I hear ya... so glad I am blue ID.

tiredretiredE7
06-17-2013, 12:47 AM
The United States has conclusive evidence that Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime has used chemical weapons against rebel forces and is now proposing a no-fly zone in the country. The use of weapons such as the nerve agent sarin crosses what President Barack Obama has called a 'red line' that would trigger greater American involvement in the crisis. According to the Wall Street Journal, the White House is now considering arming the opposition fighters and enforcing a no-fly zone that could cost an estimated $50 million a day.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2341361/U-S-proposes-50MILLION-A-DAY-fly-zone-Syria-finding-proof-government-used-chemical-weapons-rebels.html

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I wonder which "Basic Mission Ready" fighter squadrons will get into this fracas?

Will the USAF put its F-22 Raptors up against the S-300 (SA-10 Grumble, NATO name) missile system? It is regarded as one of the most (if not the most) potent anti-air missile defense systems in the world today.

How will the U.S. deal with the twelve Russian warships already in Syrian waters?

To even mention a no-fly zone by this reporter indicates a complete misunderstanding of US relations with near-by countries, regional instability, the sheer logistics required support a no-fly zone and totally negates the fact of Iran coming to the aid of Syria before we even started a no-fly zone operation. A no-fly zone in Syria is not an option IMO. I would be willing to bet there will be a lot of small arms up to antitank but no AA given to the rebels. Then there will be unexplainable gains by the rebels after being supplied with the previous mentioned equipment. Wouldn't it be embarrassing if the Syria government forces shot down any inbound cruise missiles? This administration does need a distraction from the 5 on-going scandals so something will happen.