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Cold Hard Facts
06-06-2013, 05:12 PM
http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20130605/NEWS07/306050033/House-panel-votes-favor-common-combat-uniform-across-services

Be interesting where this goes.... maybe we can all wear distinctive berets to ID service. My push is for this one:
http://www.villagehatshop.com/sur-la-tete-flower-beret-purple.html

grimreaper
06-06-2013, 05:44 PM
http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20130605/NEWS07/306050033/House-panel-votes-favor-common-combat-uniform-across-services

Be interesting where this goes.... maybe we can all wear distinctive berets to ID service. My push is for this one:
http://www.villagehatshop.com/sur-la-tete-flower-beret-purple.html

Amazing. A good idea finally hatches out of Congress, mind you it's only committee. Uniforms and their never-ending changes are a huge money pit with no accountability.

technomage1
06-06-2013, 05:45 PM
No to the beret, but I don't care one way or another if we go to a common uniform. I'm sure it would save money and promote jointness, etc.

Chief_KO
06-06-2013, 06:04 PM
If it happens, what's the over/under till Airmen, Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Coasties start complaining about looking like each other. I say 4 years.
News flash: There will never be a single uniform design, fabric, or pattern that will please everyone and will be effective in all enviroments and for all duties.

TJMAC77SP
06-06-2013, 06:06 PM
It will never fly. The Marine Corps League will enlist every former Marine and anyone who has ever seen The Sands of Iwo Jima to fight this. No way the USMC wears the same uniform as the other services..........especially the Aiiiiiirrrrrrrr Force.

Zxc
06-06-2013, 06:44 PM
Exempted would be items such as headwear and footwear. The provision also would not apply to combat and camouflage uniforms for use by special operations forces.

There also is a waiver for “exceptional operating circumstances,” to be determined by the defense secretary.

The prohibition would take effect when the defense bill becomes law, which would not be before fall. The services would have 180 days from when the bill is signed to implement new guidance requiring joint criteria for design, development and fielding of camouflage uniforms.

Under this policy, different uniforms could be designed for geographic or operational requirements of combatant commands, so there could be regional differences.

Yep, that pretty much covers it. Different uniforms as necessary for different climates/environments. Variations duty as needed (cottons for electricians, etc). Footware/headgear changes as needed (as we already have)

Everything else about herritage, individuallity, etc is just BS that needs to go.

RobotChicken
06-06-2013, 07:53 PM
Just another giant 'Charlie-Foxtrot' in the making! WAIT!! How's that F-35 'C-F' doing??

VFFTSGT
06-06-2013, 08:16 PM
If it happens, what's the over/under till Airmen, Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Coasties start complaining about looking like each other. I say 4 years.
News flash: There will never be a single uniform design, fabric, or pattern that will please everyone and will be effective in all enviroments and for all duties.

The only complaints I have heard like this were from the Generals that used it to justify their quest for their personal favorite uniform that was designed by their friends' companies.


http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20130605/NEWS07/306050033/House-panel-votes-favor-common-combat-uniform-across-services

Be interesting where this goes.... maybe we can all wear distinctive berets to ID service. My push is for this one:
http://www.villagehatshop.com/sur-la-tete-flower-beret-purple.html


The only disparaging word on the amendment came from Rep. Mike Coffman, R-Colo., who has served in the Army and Marine Corps. He said the potential savings would be small and perhaps not worth the complaints and potential harm to morale.

Are you kidding me? Morale seems to be more affected by the troops being pissed off by the inability of the services to provide an adequate uniform and watching the millions of dollars thrown down the tube the last several years.

There was nothing wrong with the BDU we had...nothing worth spending the money we have creating 10 different uniform patterns.


Just another giant 'Charlie-Foxtrot' in the making! WAIT!! How's that F-35 'C-F' doing??


“The program continues to experience cost growth and delays” and projected annual funding needs will average “more than $13 billion a year through 2035,” Michael J. Sullivan, the GAO director of acquisition and sourcing management, told the House Armed Services subcommittee on Tactical Air and Land Forces on Tuesday.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/checkpoint-washington/post/cost-overruns-production-delays-mar-aircraft-production/2012/03/30/gIQAak4KQS_blog.html


The U.S. Air Force plans to start operational use of Lockheed Martin Corp.-built (LMT.N) F-35 fighter jets in mid-2016, a year earlier than planned, using a similar software package as the Marine Corps, two sources familiar with the plans said on Monday.http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/21/us-lockheed-fighter-idUSBRE94J0V020130521

Funny it says a year early than planned...because 2016 it actually a delay from the original date.

RobotChicken
06-06-2013, 08:36 PM
Well they have been working on the F-35 since 1997,whats the rush anyway? The builders have stated the 'stealth improves with age'! LOL!(External hard points on the wings?)

BRUWIN
06-07-2013, 12:48 AM
One uniform for all is stupid. There should be a separate uniform for every service and a separate AF camouflage pattern for every change of season. We should have more pen pockets and loops for various tactical items like tactical flashlights and Gerbers. My tactical flashlight cost $175. I was afraid I'd lose it because the current ABU did not provide tactical loops so I had to hold it in my hand everyday. I never needed it but being a GWoT veteran you just never knew. I had a Gerber that could behead a Taliban in 2 seconds if I needed it to. It never came to that but it was handy for opening up the packaging on my post it notes.

RobotChicken
06-07-2013, 03:36 AM
My 'trusty K-bar' comes to mind fending off 'JAWS'. LOL (off Rosey)