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MilitaryERRN
04-07-2013, 06:36 PM
So the last time I checked, fraternization (AR 600-20), adultry (AR 134), and possible violations of AR 380 (Department of the Army Information Security Program) was against Army Regulations.

So why is LTC Paula Broadwell still sitting at home instead of a military courtroom receiving a formal court martial? Why hasn't the news hit that she along with Former General Petreus should be tried under UCMJ?
She is a West Point grad, if anyone should know the Army Regulations (along with "Duty, Honor, Country) it should be her. Forget that she is an Army Reservist and "oh by the way" an LTC...... WHY haven't her supervisors brought her back on active duty status yet and charged her with the above acts??? HELLO??? If they think that the rest of the military isn't watching this situation they are sadly mistaken, leadership starts from the front, and any other soldier would have been immediately received an Article 15, a formal court martial and if found guilty, discharged with a non honorable discharge???

As pubic that this is, it's more visual in the miltary sector where double standards are in play.....


CPT Debbie Rice

RobotChicken
04-07-2013, 06:51 PM
:hat "Different Spanks for Different Ranks" CPT Rice. The new 'PC' type';now if it was you......busted and discharged like that 'Buff' pilot was......in the meantime POTUS Clinton play'in around with his help.....:nono

KellyinAvon
04-07-2013, 07:13 PM
:hat "Different Spanks for Different Ranks" CPT Rice. The new 'PC' type';now if it was you......busted and discharged like that 'Buff' pilot was......in the meantime POTUS Clinton play'in around with his help.....:nono

The BUFF pilot (Kelly Flynn, USAF Academy grad btw, that's by the way Bob), was screwing the husband of an enlisted troop in her squadron and continued screwing the husband of an enlisted troop in her squadron after being ordered by the squadron commander to stop screwing the husband of an enlisted troop in her squadron. If Slick Willie worked for General Fogleman as opposed to the other way around? He'd have hit the street too.

KellyinAvon
04-07-2013, 07:14 PM
What is up with this forum? It sems to have time-shifting issues. Might be a phase-converter malfunction.

KellyinAvon
04-07-2013, 07:30 PM
So the last time I checked, fraternization (AR 600-20), adultry (AR 134), and possible violations of AR 380 (Department of the Army Information Security Program) was against Army Regulations.

So why is LTC Paula Broadwell still sitting at home instead of a military courtroom receiving a formal court martial? Why hasn't the news hit that she along with Former General Petreus should be tried under UCMJ?
She is a West Point grad, if anyone should know the Army Regulations (along with "Duty, Honor, Country) it should be her. Forget that she is an Army Reservist and "oh by the way" an LTC...... WHY haven't her supervisors brought her back on active duty status yet and charged her with the above acts??? HELLO??? If they think that the rest of the military isn't watching this situation they are sadly mistaken, leadership starts from the front, and any other soldier would have been immediately received an Article 15, a formal court martial and if found guilty, discharged with a non honorable discharge???

As pubic that this is, it's more visual in the miltary sector where double standards are in play.....


CPT Debbie Rice

Joined Sept 2010 and this is your 1st post? Pacing yourself??:biggrin

Welcome to the forum Debbie.

RobotChicken
04-07-2013, 08:12 PM
What is up with this forum? It sems to have time-shifting issues. Might be a phase-converter malfunction.
:hat See my post on the issues....

RobotChicken
04-07-2013, 08:40 PM
The BUFF pilot (Kelly Flynn, USAF Academy grad btw, that's by the way Bob), was screwing the husband of an enlisted troop in her squadron and continued screwing the husband of an enlisted troop in her squadron after being ordered by the squadron commander to stop screwing the husband of an enlisted troop in her squadron. If Slick Willie worked for General Fogleman as opposed to the other way around? He'd have hit the street too.

:hat I had 'read' he said that he was 'single'; sorry I was wrong, research it before memory next time. :sad

Robert F. Dorr
04-07-2013, 09:04 PM
What is up with this forum? It sems to have time-shifting issues. Might be a phase-converter malfunction.

Indeed. And it's Flinn.

KellyinAvon
04-07-2013, 09:15 PM
:hat I had 'read' he said that he was 'single'; sorry I was wrong, research it before memory next time. :sad

That seems to have worked better for her than, "Honest Sheriff, she said she was 18" ever did.

Stalwart
04-08-2013, 11:53 AM
Right now Broadwell is a MAJ in the reserves. She was selected and confirmed for promotion in AUG 2012. She was promoted but the promotion has been revoked pending the outcome of the investigation (which is still in progress).

RingLeader
04-08-2013, 12:24 PM
Why? Because she was a civilian at the time of the "screwing" you are not 7*24*365. If she was performing on the General during her time on reserve duty, she could be brought up on charges.

SENDBILLMONEY
04-09-2013, 10:32 AM
Why? Because she was a civilian at the time of the "screwing" you are not 7*24*365. If she was performing on the General during her time on reserve duty, she could be brought up on charges.

Pretty much this. When I worked in base legal, one of the key things regarding reservists was being able to prove they were in subject to the UCMJ when they committed the offense. Without that proof, UCMJ actions were off the table but administrative actions were still in play. I recall one reservist who happened to file all her fraudulent claims when she wasn't in a duty status. No UCMJ for her.

MilitaryERRN
05-15-2013, 07:14 AM
Thanks,

I'm done with this military game I've been playing for 14 years........................LET ME OUT!!!!!!!!!!

MilitaryERRN
05-15-2013, 07:19 AM
Article 2 of the UCMJ. Persons subject to this chapter

(a) The following persons are subject to this chapter:


(1) Members of a regular component of the armed forces, including those awaiting discharge after expiration of their terms of enlistment; volunteers from the time of their muster or acceptance into the armed forces; inductees from the time of their actual induction into the armed forces; and other persons lawfully called or ordered into, or to duty in or for training in, the armed forces, from the dates when they are required by the terms of the call or order to obey it.

(2) Cadets, aviation cadets, and midshipmen.

(3) Members of a reserve component while on inactive-duty training, but in the case of members of the Army National Guard of the United States or the Air National Guard of the United States only when in Federal service.

(4) Retired members of a regular component of the armed forces who are entitled to pay.

(5) Retired members of a reserve component who are receiving hospitalization from an armed force.

(6) Members of the Fleet Reserve and Fleet Marine Corps Reserve.

(7) Persons in custody of the armed forces serving a sentence imposed by a court-martial.

(8) Members of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Ad-ministration, Public Health Service, and other organizations, when assigned to and serving with the armed forces.

(9) Prisoners of war in custody of the armed forces.

(10) In time of war, persons serving with or accompanying an armed force in the field.

(11) Subject to any treaty or agreement to which the United States is or may be a party or to any accepted rule of international law, persons serving with, employed by, or accompanying the armed forces outside the United States and outside the Common-wealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands.

(12) Subject to any treaty or agreement to which the United States is or may be a party or to any accepted rule of international law, persons within an area leased by or otherwise reserved or acquired for the use of the United States which is under the control of the Secretary concerned and which is outside the United States and outside the Canal Zone, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands.

(b) The voluntary enlistment of any person who has the capacity to understand the significance of enlisting in the armed forces shall be valid for purposes of jurisdiction under subsection (a) and a change of status from civilian to member of the armed forces shall be effective upon the taking of the oath of enlistment.

(c) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person serving with an armed force who—


(1) submitted voluntarily to military authority;

(2) met the mental competence and minimum age qualifications of sections 504 and 505 of this title at the time of voluntary submission to military authority;

(3) received military pay or allowances;and

(4) performed military duties;

(d) (1) A member of a reserve component who is not on active duty and who is made the subject of proceedings under section 81 (article 15) or section 830 (article 30) with respect to an offense against this chapter may be ordered to active duty involuntarily for the purpose of
(A) investigation under section 832 of this title (article 32);

(B) trial by court-martial; or

(C) nonjudicial punishment under section 815 of this title (article 15).

(2) A member of a reserve component may not be ordered to active duty under paragraph (1) except with respect to an offense committed while the member was[/COLOR](A) on active duty; or

(B) on inactive-duty training, but in the case of members of the Army National Guard of the United States or the Air National Guard of the United States only when in Federal service.

(3) Authority to order a member to active duty under para-graph (1) shall be exercised under regulations prescribed by the President.

(4) A member may be ordered to active duty under paragraph (1) only by a person empowered to convene general courts-martial in a regular component of the armed forces.

(5) A member ordered to active duty under paragraph (1), unless the order to active duty was approved by the Secretary concerned, may not


(A) be sentenced to confinement; or

(B) be required to serve a punishment consisting of any restriction on liberty during a period other than a period of inactive-duty training or active duty (other than active duty ordered under paragraph (l)).

(e) The provisions of this section are subject to section 876(d)(2) of this title (article 76b(d)(2).
Article 3 of the UCMJ. Jurisdiction to try certain personnel

(a) Subject to section 843 of this title (article 43), a person who is in a status in which the person is subject to this chapter and who committed an offense against this chapter while formerly in a status in which the person was subject to this chapter is not relieved from amenability to the jurisdiction of this chapter for that offense by reason of a termination of that person’s former status.

(b) Each person discharged from the armed forces who is later charged with having fraudulently obtained his discharge is, subject to section 843 of this title (article 43), subject to trial by court-martial on that charge and is after apprehension subject to this chapter while in the custody of the armed forces for that trial. Upon conviction of that charge he is subject to trial by court-martial for all offenses under this chapter committed before the fraudulent discharge.

(c) No person who has deserted from the armed forces may be relieved from amenability to the jurisdiction of this chapter by virtue of a separation from any later period of service.

(d) A member of a reserve component who is subject to this chapter is not, by virtue of the termination of a period of active duty or inactive-duty training, relieved from amenability to the jurisdiction of this chapter for an offense against this chapter committed during such period of active duty or inactive-duty training.

MilitaryERRN
05-15-2013, 07:20 AM
She was on active duty orders when she deployed with him...........

RobotChicken
05-16-2013, 05:23 AM
:bathbaby It's not who you know...but who you sleep with.....:closed_2