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efmbman
04-06-2013, 09:54 PM
There have been several discussions about promotion and promotion potential, so I thought some of you may be interested in seeing how the different services distribute the enlisted ranks. All numbers are based on the latest report of FEB 2013. This table shows how many of each rank are serving and the percentage that rank is of the total enlisted force.



ARMY



E9
3,687
0.84%



E8
12,524
2.86%



E7
40,806
9.31%



E6
63,370
14.46%



E5
82,287
18.77%



E4
134,817
30.76%



E3
59,738
13.63%



E2
27,333
6.24%



E1
13,785
3.14%



Total
438,347





NAVY


E9
2,327
0.89%



E8
5,701
2.19%



E7
19,986
7.67%



E6
46,387
17.80%



E5
60,275
23.13%



E4
51,246
19.67%



E3
48,836
18.74%



E2
14,506
5.57%



E1
11,317
4.34%



Total
260,581
%




MARINES


E9
1,608
0.93%



E8
3,955
2.28%



E7
9,012
5.20%



E6
16,121
9.31%



E5
27,855
16.08%



E4
34,170
19.73%



E3
47,836
27.62%



E2
22,102
12.76%



E1
10,563
6.10%



Total
173,222





AIR FORCE



E9
2,593
0.97%



E8
5,054
1.90%



E7
26,711
10.04%



E6
42,195
15.86%



E5
67,843
25.50%



E4
56,162
21.11%



E3
51,285
19.28%



E2
4,232
1.59%



E1
9,929
3.73%



Total
266,004





Notice the different "cliffs" that appear. The Army and Navy show a large drop from E6 to E7. The Marines show this drop from E5 to E6. The Air Force shows the drop from E7 to E8.

To show in another way, I will try to show it as a simple ASCII bargraph in which each "|" represents 1 percentage point:

ARMY
E9 - |
E8 - |||
E7 - |||||||||
E6 - ||||||||||||||
E5 - |||||||||||||||||||
E4 - |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
E3 - ||||||||||||||
E2 - ||||||
E1 - |||

NAVY
E9 - |
E8 - ||
E7 - ||||||||
E6 - ||||||||||||||||||
E5 - |||||||||||||||||||||||
E4 - ||||||||||||||||||||
E3 - |||||||||||||||||||
E2 - ||||||
E1 - ||||

USMC
E9 - |
E8 - ||
E7 - |||||
E6 - |||||||||
E5 - ||||||||||||||||
E4 - ||||||||||||||||||||
E3 - ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
E2 - |||||||||||||
E1 - ||||||

USAF
E9 - |
E8 - ||
E7 - ||||||||||
E6 - ||||||||||||||||
E5 - ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
E4 - |||||||||||||||||||||
E3 - |||||||||||||||||||
E2 - ||
E1 - ||||

There are definite differences in "center mass".

CrustySMSgt
04-07-2013, 08:53 AM
interesting... shows that while there are some differences, they aren't huge and make sense when you apply them to that service.

AJBIGJ
04-08-2013, 06:18 AM
interesting... shows that while there are some differences, they aren't huge and make sense when you apply them to that service.

Agreed, and adding to that I think there's some proportionality to the percentage technical MOS/Ratings in the parent service to the center mass as well as the paygrade where servicemembers are first being assigned into leadership positions. For instance, in the USMC E3's are likely to begin getting their feet wet in a lot of leadership roles, Whereas in the USN that doesn't get as much play until E4/E5, I can't speak to the USAF but I imagine it also would reflect a bit closer to what the USN is doing, with the Army falling probably a bit short of the USN/USAF in that regard.

CrustySMSgt
04-08-2013, 06:33 AM
Agreed, and adding to that I think there's some proportionality to the percentage technical MOS/Ratings in the parent service to the center mass as well as the paygrade where servicemembers are first being assigned into leadership positions. For instance, in the USMC E3's are likely to begin getting their feet wet in a lot of leadership roles, Whereas in the USN that doesn't get as much play until E4/E5, I can't speak to the USAF but I imagine it also would reflect a bit closer to what the USN is doing, with the Army falling probably a bit short of the USN/USAF in that regard.

Sounds about right. With more technically oriented skills being a preponderance of what the Navy & AF do, it makes sense that the bulk of the manning being in the NCO range, focusing on retaining skilled technicians.

No surprise the Army's peak is at the E4 grade, with their extensive use of the Specialist rank.

efmbman
04-08-2013, 10:53 AM
I appreciate the input. I was hoping for comments from across the services to get perspective. I may do similar numbers for officers if there is interest.

JD2780
04-08-2013, 11:08 AM
I guess it's just as hard to make E-2 as it is E-8!!! Very competitive there at E-2

Rusty Jones
04-08-2013, 11:36 AM
Notice the different "cliffs" that appear. The Army and Navy show a large drop from E6 to E7. The Marines show this drop from E5 to E6. The Air Force shows the drop from E7 to E8.

Incidentally, those promotions in each service are also the first in which a selection board is required for promotion.

ubermetroid
04-08-2013, 04:24 PM
I appreciate the input. I was hoping for comments from across the services to get perspective. I may do similar numbers for officers if there is interest.

Please do.

efmbman
04-08-2013, 11:53 PM
Incidentally, those promotions in each service are also the first in which a selection board is required for promotion.

I was not aware of that. I knew in the Army that "centralized" promotions begin from E6 to E7. That does make sense, Rusty - thanks for pointing that out. For the lower ranks, I guess if you have not murdered anyone you will eventually make it.

sandsjames
04-09-2013, 02:31 PM
I was not aware of that. I knew in the Army that "centralized" promotions begin from E6 to E7. That does make sense, Rusty - thanks for pointing that out. For the lower ranks, I guess if you have not murdered anyone you will eventually make it.

I think you can still make it even if you do murder someone. I don't think there's a Commander's slide for that, so all should be good.

dnawara
08-12-2013, 04:52 PM
Can you share the link/report that you sourced this data from?

Thanks,
Doug

efmbman
08-12-2013, 06:34 PM
Certainly. The site is:

However, there have no new reports posted since FEB 2013. I find that disturbing...

efmbman
08-12-2013, 06:36 PM
It seems I cannot post links from the work computer....

Google "Military Personnel Statistics" and pick the link with DMDC in it.