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Banned
03-25-2013, 12:23 AM
So can we say the Tea Party has finally gone completely bonkers now?


The paranoia that Fox News created is turning against them, as tea party activists are boycotting the network for being too far left.

http://www.politicususa.com/tea-party-boycotting-fox-news-liberal.html

tiredretiredE7
03-25-2013, 02:52 AM
So can we say the Tea Party has finally gone completely bonkers now?

http://www.politicususa.com/tea-party-boycotting-fox-news-liberal.html

Joe,

As I have stated before, Foxnews has some pretty extreme democrats on their staff. Bob Beckel and Juan Williams are the main two and the executives/producers encourage these two to "mix it up" with the Republicans/extreme conservatives on each other shows. This is a brilliant strategy since it gets the most viewers and "somewhat" skews the network's conservative spin. The tea party hates Fox for allowing any democrats on the network and Bob Beckel and Juan Williams are over the top for the tea party to accept. Now I will have to prove to RFD that Bob Beckel and Juan Williams are actually democrats.

Bob Beckel has recently won praise from Republicans for his rant against CBS for the most recent Survivor fiasco and is an example of how the exec at Fox use political controversy to get ratings. Ofcourse the tea party does not want any democrats to appear strong and they believe Fox is allowing this perception.

http://www.newshounds.us/20130321_megyn_kelly_bob_beckel_still_fighting_the _vietnam_war

Dan-O
03-25-2013, 08:31 AM
Fox News just can't catch a break. All the other mainstream news channels lean left and now they are getting bashed by Tea Party people. I'm not a Republican but I think that Fox News does a better job with the news than any other channel.

Banned
03-25-2013, 02:28 PM
Fox News just can't catch a break. All the other mainstream news channels lean left and now they are getting bashed by Tea Party people. I'm not a Republican but I think that Fox News does a better job with the news than any other channel.

The Tea Party are the most brainwashed Fox News viewers out there... so brainwashed that when Fox themselves changes it up in even just a minor way... the Tea Party goes bonkers about it.

Battleshort
03-25-2013, 02:51 PM
Fox News just can't catch a break. All the other mainstream news channels lean left and now they are getting bashed by Tea Party people. I'm not a Republican but I think that Fox News does a better job with the news than any other channel.

Liberals bashing Fox News is like the football player bad-mouthing the only cheerleader who won't sleep with him.

Banned
03-25-2013, 03:00 PM
Liberals bashing Fox News is like the football player bad-mouthing the only cheerleader who won't sleep with him.


So what do you make of it when hardcorew rightwingers start bashing on Fox News?

Battleshort
03-26-2013, 02:46 PM
So what do you make of it when hardcorew rightwingers start bashing on Fox News?

Tells me that Fox is NOT so far to the right.......

imported_WILDJOKER5
03-26-2013, 03:28 PM
I dont like Fox because they show way too much of an agenda in their reporting. It has more to do with their ability to not give everyone a fair shot and trying to skew people into thinking like them. Hense why I dont watch any of the news networks.

CYBERFX1024
03-26-2013, 05:00 PM
I dont like Fox because they show way too much of an agenda in their reporting. It has more to do with their ability to not give everyone a fair shot and trying to skew people into thinking like them. Hense why I dont watch any of the news networks.

Really? I like watching them because alot less bias than CNN let alone MSNBC.

JD2780
03-26-2013, 05:14 PM
I dont like Fox because they show way too much of an agenda in their reporting. It has more to do with their ability to not give everyone a fair shot and trying to skew people into thinking like them. Hense why I dont watch any of the news networks.
Yea pretty much every news service does this these days. Need to watch several sources and make your own mind. Tue journalism is lost.

Sperry1989
03-26-2013, 08:04 PM
When I think of Fox News and CNN, I think of news entertainment. They are in business to turn a profit, not to provide a service to the general public. These two networks are very similar to the WWE (sports entertainment). Just like JD said, you have to consult several sources to reveal the real truth.

imported_WILDJOKER5
03-27-2013, 01:56 PM
When I think of Fox News and CNN, I think of news entertainment. They are in business to turn a profit, not to provide a service to the general public. These two networks are very similar to the WWE (sports entertainment). Just like JD said, you have to consult several sources to reveal the real truth.

What about MSNBC?

Monkey
03-27-2013, 02:03 PM
What about MSNBC?

It's where I go to see what Joe B thinks about anything.

JD2780
03-27-2013, 02:10 PM
AQ loves MSNBC and hates Fox News. It's been documented. They also think Joe Biden should be presidents because he is an idiot.

Robert F. Dorr
03-31-2013, 11:48 AM
When I think of Fox News and CNN, I think of news entertainment. They are in business to turn a profit, not to provide a service to the general public. These two networks are very similar to the WWE (sports entertainment). Just like JD said, you have to consult several sources to reveal the real truth.

You should be able to see a sharp and distinct difference between Fox "News" and CNN. The latter may sometimes show the leftward bias that many complain about but it remains essentially a genuine news reporting medium. Fox "News" doesn't make any pretense of reporting factually. What is so remarkable is that Fox "News" and its junk facts, junk narrative and junk science have so many adherents. Vrake's right about the diaper, by the way. Think Richard Reid and shoes.

JD2780
03-31-2013, 12:33 PM
You should be able to see a sharp and distinct difference between Fox "News" and CNN. The latter may sometimes show the leftward bias that many complain about but it remains essentially a genuine news reporting medium. Fox "News" doesn't make any pretense of reporting factually. What is so remarkable is that Fox "News" and its junk facts, junk narrative and junk science have so many adherents. Vrake's right about the diaper, by the way. Think Richard Reid and shoes.


Hahahaha. Yea CNN is a great news source. It's no different than fox.

Banned
03-31-2013, 03:46 PM
Hahahaha. Yea CNN is a great news source. It's no different than fox.

In your fantasy world... the NYT is unreliable. LOL!!!!!

JD2780
03-31-2013, 04:14 PM
These days any news organization by itself is unreliable. Just like targeting you can't go sole source. You need multiple sources. Yes JB, also in my fantasy world the sky is blue the world is round and gravity is constant. Not sure what your world is like.

Banned
03-31-2013, 04:25 PM
These days any news organization by itself is unreliable. Just like targeting you can't go sole source. You need multiple sources. Yes JB, also in my fantasy world the sky is blue the world is round and gravity is constant. Not sure what your world is like.

Here's the thing about "different sources"- they are probably all relying on the same press release written by the same dude.

So really, you just THINK you're smarter and better educated by watching two or three different networks... but in reality you're probably not.

JD2780
03-31-2013, 04:33 PM
No but by watching all three I can remove the political spin from each and view as objectively as one can. Its tough to do but I'm trying it more and more.

Banned
03-31-2013, 04:42 PM
No but by watching all three I can remove the political spin from each and view as objectively as one can. Its tough to do but I'm trying it more and more.

And how do you remove the "political spin"? Are you psychic?

And again... those three news sources are using the same press release. So if the original reporter got a fact wrong or inserted spin... all three sources will also get it wrong.

JD2780
03-31-2013, 08:52 PM
And how do you remove the "political spin"? Are you psychic?

And again... those three news sources are using the same press release. So if the original reporter got a fact wrong or inserted spin... all three sources will also get it wrong.

Yes same news release then each network spins applies on emotional/standpoint to it. Not a psychic, just a guy trying to objective. I now being objective is beyond your grasp Joe. Watch out for evil republicans, Christians, whites, self loathing back republicans, NRA. Those groups are all pure evil. Just remember that.

Banned
03-31-2013, 09:02 PM
Yes same news release then each network spins applies on emotional/standpoint to it. Not a psychic, just a guy trying to objective. I now being objective is beyond your grasp Joe. Watch out for evil republicans, Christians, whites, self loathing back republicans, NRA. Those groups are all pure evil. Just remember that.

So if an article says 20 terrorists were killed in an airstrike... when in reality - 2 terrorists were killed and 18 school kids died... you'll magically detect the "spin" and know the facts were false, because you're just smart that way - right?

JD2780
03-31-2013, 09:08 PM
So if an article says 20 terrorists were killed in an airstrike... when in reality - 2 terrorists were killed and 18 school kids died... you'll magically detect the "spin" and know the facts were false, because you're just smart that way - right?

Nope that's why you look at all three Joe. You can see all three and remove the spin. If every single paper/ news source said 20 I would believe it. However, since I've been directly involved with incidents like that I understand what terrorist do. They have better propaganda than we do.

Are you related to Bill Maher.

Banned
03-31-2013, 11:48 PM
Nope that's why you look at all three Joe. You can see all three and remove the spin. If every single paper/ news source said 20 I would believe it. However, since I've been directly involved with incidents like that I understand what terrorist do. They have better propaganda than we do.

Are you related to Bill Maher.

That's pretty naive. A lie is a lie regardless of how many papers reprint it. If CNN reports the wrong number of casualties... then odds are Fox, MSNBC, BBC, ABC, and every other network will also report it wrong... because for the most part they're relying on the same sources. And its highly unlikely that few or any of them actually had boots on the ground at the scene... odds are they are relying on a military spokesman for that information. Which means regardless how many papers you read, if that one spokesman lied... every single source that used him will be wrong.

I wonder why this is such a hard concept for you to grasp. Next time you're being all clever and reading your "three sources" - start looking for similar verbage... you'd be surprised how many times you'll see the same text verbatim in a Fox article as an MSNBC... because they both copy/pasted the same press release.

JD2780
03-31-2013, 11:57 PM
I get a kick out of the fact you can't see the logic behind using multiple news sources to get passed the political bias each plays. You know, how much you hate Fox News. How I'm not a fan of CNN but I'm working on my objectivity.

Not so much clever but open minded. Something beyond your reach apparently.

Banned
04-01-2013, 12:08 AM
I get a kick out of the fact you can't see the logic behind using multiple news sources to get passed the political bias each plays. You know, how much you hate Fox News. How I'm not a fan of CNN but I'm working on my objectivity.

Not so much clever but open minded. Something beyond your reach apparently.

You're still confused. Let me try to simplify this for you.

Take California for example. There are tens of thousands of journalists throughout the state. But out of all military branches, there are probably less than a hundred public affairs specialists. Out of that hundred, there's at most 10 or 20 who deal with the media on a regular basis. But they all use basically the same talking points (with a few variations dependent on branch). Which means that any story involving the military in the state of California... will pretty consistently have the same slant... because they all came from that same small pool of military representatives using the same talking points!

Next time there's a big auto wreck, or a black hawk crash - take a look at the news reporting. Look for similarities. Try to get through your head that if the initial investigation is wrong, every single network that feeds off of it will also get it wrong.

You're trying to be intellectual. That's cool. But try first to be smart. Try to understand that its not so much the news source that matters, but the facts cited. I knew right off the bat you had no idea what you were talking about when you were complaining about the NYT... because all their sources of the study in question were all verified and listed by name within the text... all easy to confirm. But you preferred to dismiss it because you dislike NYT.


Which proves that you try to be smart by watching different sources... but fail miserably because you don't know what to look for. Ah but you "understand what terrorists do". Got it.

JD2780
04-01-2013, 12:27 AM
Nice try JB. It's obvious you can't even get by your own bias. Yes i blew off NYT. It was wrong. What i shouldve done was read it and check other sources. Good luck being narrow minded towards everything that isn't exactly what you believe. I guess your ignorance really is bliss.

Liberal extremism.

As for knowing what terrorist do, you're right. They like to change up the numbers. Take weapon away from the people we bomb to make it look like a peaceful gathering. Please tell your not too ignorant to think we just bomb because I want to just blow up people. Actually, never mind. I already know you think we do. Good night JB. Been pleasant listening to your extremist rants.

Banned
04-01-2013, 12:38 AM
Nice try JB. It's obvious you can't even get by your own bias. Yes i blew off NYT. It was wrong. What i shouldve done was read it and check other sources. Good luck being narrow minded towards everything that isn't exactly what you believe. I guess your ignorance really is bliss.

So you were too lazy to even skim a NYT article before rambling about it... and that makes ME narrow-minded? LOL!!! You funny GI!



Liberal extremism.

Yeah - reading, understanding how journalism works, how news agencies work... terrible.


As for knowing what terrorist do, you're right. They like to change up the numbers. Take weapon away from the people we bomb to make it look like a peaceful gathering. Please tell your not too ignorant to think we just bomb because I want to just blow up people. Actually, never mind. I already know you think we do. Good night JB. Been pleasant listening to your extremist rants.

Cool. So what part of "different news networks tend to use the same sources, which could be wrong" confuses you?

JD2780
04-01-2013, 12:41 AM
Silly silly JB.

Banned
04-01-2013, 01:09 AM
Silly silly JB.

Yes, because an actual military PAO wouldn't understand how the military gives information to the civilian media. But go ahead and read your "three sources", don't mind me. You know all about those horrid terrorists in the liberal media, lol.