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CrustySMSgt
03-07-2013, 05:41 AM
Seriously? Because a few people can't control themselves we all have to suffer? Off base, this is a no brainer, no different than not being able to go hang out in a bar in uniform. On base in the club? Isn't that one of the main reasons we have clubs on base, so we can stay on base and be a part of the military community? What's next, no uniforms while drinking at the club on base?

f-ing PC BS.




http://www.stripes.com/news/new-policy-could-ban-gambling-in-uniform-1.210729

New policy could ban gambling in uniform
By Matt Millham Stars and Stripes Tweet

Published: March 6, 2013

A proposed policy change would prevent U.S. soldiers in the Kaiserslautern garrison from gambling in uniform, even on American bases.

KAISERSLAUTERN, Germany — A proposed policy change would prevent U.S. soldiers in the Kaiserslautern garrison from gambling in uniform, even on American bases.

Lt. Col. Lars Zetterstrom, commander of the garrison, “has asked his Army Community Service staff to begin drafting” such a policy “to be staffed for approval,” garrison spokesman Mark Heeter said in an email.

Denise Fesel, manager of the Kaiserslautern ACS financial readiness program, said the policy her office is drafting is partly about maintaining “the integrity of the uniform,” but also aims to address problem gambling in the Kaiserslautern community, where there are numerous off-base casinos and on-base slot machines at military clubs.

While working with soldiers who need help straightening out their finances, Fesel said she identifies about four a year whose fiscal woes resulted from a gambling problem.

“Most people, when they’re gambling, what they’re going to do is they gamble at lunch, they gamble before they go home, they gamble on their way to an appointment — all of this in uniform,” Fesel said. “So if we can change a habit, we might be able to help them identify themselves” as problem gamblers.

The issue of gambling in uniform came up at an Army Family Advocacy Program conference last year, according to Heeter, and Zetterstrom asked for the policy in response.

Fesel said she is working with the legal office to determine the policy’s scope. Her office advocates a wholesale ban on gambling in uniform, but the new policy may result in a lesser restriction, such as restricting gambling during duty hours.

“You know, we’re not allowed to go out and drink in uniform,” Fesel said. “So why should you be allowed to gamble?”

FLAPS
03-07-2013, 10:38 AM
Amazing what kind of changes some people want to make during their 2-3 year tour. That's 2-3 years out of the last almost 70 years we've been in Germany. What a bunch of a-holes.

KellyinAvon
03-07-2013, 11:07 AM
Denise Fesel, manager of the Kaiserslautern ACS financial readiness program, said the policy her office is drafting is partly about maintaining “the integrity of the uniform,”

Ever met a fighter pilot there Denise? Oh wait, bags aren't uniforms, carry on Torch, Scorch, Brick, Bama, Glove, Snake, Schmuck, etc.

MajesticThunder
03-07-2013, 11:25 AM
“...identifies about four a year”


No startling crisis, so hubristic agenda in KMC must be to impose an idiosyncratic “virtue over vice” mandate.

By order of ... perceived sinners must repent and reform. :evil

MACHINE666
03-07-2013, 06:36 PM
Seriously? Because a few people can't control themselves we all have to suffer? Off base, this is a no brainer, no different than not being able to go hang out in a bar in uniform. On base in the club? Isn't that one of the main reasons we have clubs on base, so we can stay on base and be a part of the military community? What's next, no uniforms while drinking at the club on base?

f-ing PC BS.

Crusty, instead of bitching about it, do what you and your Chief buddies SHOULD be doing all along....tell these officer-types that what they're doing is completely and utterly STUPID, and that all the Senior NCOs are gonna band together and not support this. You know....take Chief B's style of leadership and make your point.

What else do you all do in those Top 3 meetings?

Had you Chiefs been just as outwardly spoken against Blues Monday and all the PT crap, perhaps I would have more respect for you guys....just sayin'.

sandsjames
03-08-2013, 01:02 AM
I have the same bitch with not being able to be in uniform for certain fundraisers that take place on base. We had a Top 4 bbq a couple years back and the Chief told me I couldn't be there working because I was in uniform, then he pointed out some AFI. Last week, there was a car wash, on base, and a guy got told to leave because he was in uniform. Utter stupidity.