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ChiefB
06-08-2012, 11:14 PM
This is ChiefB’s son, David, whom he has written about often. I am proud to be the son of a man that not only supports me as a gay man, but also supports anyone, especially service men and women, both straight and gay, who need someone to be a voice for them. Today, I am the voice for my father who cannot write to you personally. But in ChiefB’s stead, I wanted to let you know where and what he has been up to.

To cut to the chase, I am right now with ChiefB in the CCU (Critical Care Unit) of a Cardiac Hospital in West Texas. You may have noticed that the old Chiefly curmudgeon has been silent recently. Well, it's because of an infection in his heart that has knocked him out of the loop for a bit. ChiefB is looking forward to being there with his fellow military brothers and sisters, and wants to apologize for not being around lately. He deeply regrets not being able to answer or update any of his posts.

As he lies here in CCU, he wants all of you to know what is in store for him in the very near future. This Monday, doctors have scheduled open heart surgery to repair a damaged valve due to the infection and an arterial bypass. The average recovery from this type of surgery is three to six months.

In ChiefB’s words, “If he successfully makes the cut, he looks forward to seeing you all online.”

Thanks so much for your time, and I too will be praying for ChiefB’s speedy recovery. I'm so happy my dad is as proud of me as I am of him, especially as he continues to fight for the rights of others in all areas of life. Wishing all of you great health!


ChiefB’s son, David

Measure Man
06-08-2012, 11:31 PM
This is ChiefB’s son, David, whom he has written about often. I am proud to be the son of a man that not only supports me as a gay man, but also supports anyone, especially service men and women, both straight and gay, who need someone to be a voice for them. Today, I am the voice for my father who cannot write to you personally. But in ChiefB’s stead, I wanted to let you know where and what he has been up to.

To cut to the chase, I am right now with ChiefB in the CCU (Critical Care Unit) of a Cardiac Hospital in West Texas. You may have noticed that the old Chiefly curmudgeon has been silent recently. Well, it's because of an infection in his heart that has knocked him out of the loop for a bit. ChiefB is looking forward to being there with his fellow military brothers and sisters, and wants to apologize for not being around lately. He deeply regrets not being able to answer or update any of his posts.

As he lies here in CCU, he wants all of you to know what is in store for him in the very near future. This Monday, doctors have scheduled open heart surgery to repair a damaged valve due to the infection and an arterial bypass. The average recovery from this type of surgery is three to six months.

In ChiefB’s words, “If he successfully makes the cut, he looks forward to seeing you all online.”

Thanks so much for your time, and I too will be praying for ChiefB’s speedy recovery. I'm so happy my dad is as proud of me as I am of him, especially as he continues to fight for the rights of others in all areas of life. Wishing all of you great health!


ChiefB’s son, David


Thanks for the update, David. I have been wondering where ChiefB has been.

Best wishes for his speedy recovery, and we look forward to his return!

AJBIGJ
06-08-2012, 11:39 PM
I'm certain he'll be in the best wishes and prayers of many in this forum, myself included among them.

Bunch
06-08-2012, 11:40 PM
The prayers of my family will be with yours. God willing he will be with you and us here soon. Thanks for keeping us informed and please continue to do so.

Jamethon
06-08-2012, 11:42 PM
Get well soon, Chief B! I'm not a prayin' man, but I have hope that the surgery will go just fine.

denmom
06-08-2012, 11:48 PM
Keeping him and the whole family in my thoughts and prayers.

F4CrewChick
06-09-2012, 12:01 AM
This is ChiefB’s son, David, whom he has written about often. I am proud to be the son of a man that not only supports me as a gay man, but also supports anyone, especially service men and women, both straight and gay, who need someone to be a voice for them. Today, I am the voice for my father who cannot write to you personally. But in ChiefB’s stead, I wanted to let you know where and what he has been up to.

To cut to the chase, I am right now with ChiefB in the CCU (Critical Care Unit) of a Cardiac Hospital in West Texas. You may have noticed that the old Chiefly curmudgeon has been silent recently. Well, it's because of an infection in his heart that has knocked him out of the loop for a bit. ChiefB is looking forward to being there with his fellow military brothers and sisters, and wants to apologize for not being around lately. He deeply regrets not being able to answer or update any of his posts.

As he lies here in CCU, he wants all of you to know what is in store for him in the very near future. This Monday, doctors have scheduled open heart surgery to repair a damaged valve due to the infection and an arterial bypass. The average recovery from this type of surgery is three to six months.

In ChiefB’s words, “If he successfully makes the cut, he looks forward to seeing you all online.”

Thanks so much for your time, and I too will be praying for ChiefB’s speedy recovery. I'm so happy my dad is as proud of me as I am of him, especially as he continues to fight for the rights of others in all areas of life. Wishing all of you great health!


ChiefB’s son, David
David! My heart skipped a beat to read your news... My very best wishes for success and my most fervent prayers for Chief and the rest of the family in this trying time. Your dad has spoken about you to me often and he has been like a 2nd father to me on and off this site (he gives great advice). I was thinking about him today as I drove home from my visit to the doctor, wondering where he has been. If I can be of any assistance to you or your family now, please do not hesitate to let me know. Whatever it may be, even though I am at a distance. Again, my very best to all and God Bless D & Family. Much Love to you all, Michelle in California <3<3<3

technomage1
06-09-2012, 12:05 AM
He'll be in my thoughts, as will you and the rest of the family.

ART
06-09-2012, 12:19 AM
Tell your Pop we'll be thinking about him and sending good karma his way!

Venus
06-09-2012, 12:36 AM
Chief has chastised me alot for not being to nice in my opinions but I value his opinions and miss his inputs here. Look forward to HIS next post.

Tak
06-09-2012, 01:21 AM
I only have one friend on these forums, thankfully that friend is ChiefB. We all miss and love
His wisdom. I pray he returns better than ever.

FLAPS
06-09-2012, 01:33 AM
Get well soon, ChiefB!

imported_AFKILO7
06-09-2012, 01:40 AM
My prayers are with you and your family ChiefB.

Shaken1976
06-09-2012, 02:35 AM
I am not sure of your families beliefs...but I have seen God perform miracles lately....and if anyone deserves a miracle it is ChiefB. He is in our thoughts and prayers. God Speed to ChiefB.

JD2780
06-09-2012, 03:36 AM
Get well ChiefB us young'ins need you back, but we need you back when your body is ready!!!

Dave PM me, your dad used to ask me questions about certain platforms you were interested in. I want to know how it turned out!!!

Once again, I hope your dad gets better. We all miss him here.

BRUWIN
06-09-2012, 04:16 AM
I have wondered about ChiefB the last month or two. That last year or two before I retired I sometimes got frustrated with the way the AF was going and would lose sight in how a Chief should act when dealing with it, but then I would read a ChiefB post and be reminded and try and carry it with me the rest of the day. I wish him getting well soon.

Mr. Happy
06-09-2012, 04:39 AM
Get well soon ChiefB!

Shrike
06-09-2012, 04:40 AM
Here's hoping for a speedy and full recovery. We miss ChiefB around here!

OtisRNeedleman
06-09-2012, 05:14 AM
This is ChiefB’s son, David, whom he has written about often. I am proud to be the son of a man that not only supports me as a gay man, but also supports anyone, especially service men and women, both straight and gay, who need someone to be a voice for them. Today, I am the voice for my father who cannot write to you personally. But in ChiefB’s stead, I wanted to let you know where and what he has been up to.

To cut to the chase, I am right now with ChiefB in the CCU (Critical Care Unit) of a Cardiac Hospital in West Texas. You may have noticed that the old Chiefly curmudgeon has been silent recently. Well, it's because of an infection in his heart that has knocked him out of the loop for a bit. ChiefB is looking forward to being there with his fellow military brothers and sisters, and wants to apologize for not being around lately. He deeply regrets not being able to answer or update any of his posts.

As he lies here in CCU, he wants all of you to know what is in store for him in the very near future. This Monday, doctors have scheduled open heart surgery to repair a damaged valve due to the infection and an arterial bypass. The average recovery from this type of surgery is three to six months.

In ChiefB’s words, “If he successfully makes the cut, he looks forward to seeing you all online.”

Thanks so much for your time, and I too will be praying for ChiefB’s speedy recovery. I'm so happy my dad is as proud of me as I am of him, especially as he continues to fight for the rights of others in all areas of life. Wishing all of you great health!


ChiefB’s son, David

David,

I'm sorry to hear about your dad. He's been missed here.

I know what your dad's going through. Had open heart surgery myself on May 7. Replaced aortic valve and did a bypass. Got out of the hospital on May 11.

Am sure the surgery will go well. Look for your dad to be in intensive care for maybe 48 hours, then in a regular hospital room for two or three days. When your dad comes out of surgery, he's going to have a lot of tubes going into and coming out of him. His leg will be bandaged where the vein was removed for the bypass. Frankly, he's going to look pretty beat-up. I did. He won't be able to talk until he comes off the ventilator in a day or two. As he progresses, the tubes start coming out, as well as the staples for the chest incision, if the staples were used. Pretty soon he'll be champing at the bit to get home, where he can sleep in his own bed and actually get some rest.

Tips re recovery....first, last, and always, PROTECT THE STERNUM. The long recovery is due to the need for the sternum, which has been cracked open and pulled apart, then wired back together, to heal. Your dad will need to be very careful, especially during the first few weeks, about getting into and out of bed, chairs, and the like. Tendency is to use the arms. Gotta use the legs as much as possible instead. He'll probably be given a heart pillow which will help, and the medical people will show him how to use the legs to get in and out. No driving for some time. I just started driving again this past week. Coughing is important early on to prevent pneumonia. Hurts but you must do it. Use the heart pillow to cushion the chest.

He'll likely start a walking program when he gets home. He was probably pretty active before this stuff hit, which will stand him in good stead. Your dad will be taken for walks in the hospital, just around the floor, escorted by a nurse/aide until he shows he can go by himself. The more you can walk, the sooner the tubes come out, and the sooner you go home.

Last babble...recovery from open-heart surgery isn't a linear process. The body has gone through the equivalent of an auto accident. Chest will be sore, and likely back, neck, and shoulders - going through this now. Took the pain meds for a while but stopped. Just the occasional ibuprofen. Your dad will need more rest than usual. There will be good days and bad days early on. As time goes by there are fewer bad days. Have found that getting back to the normal routine, but making allowances for extra time and extra rest, is a big help in recovery.

I shall keep your dad in my prayers.

Otis

Slyoldawg
06-09-2012, 05:20 AM
My wishes for a speedy recovery go out to you ChiefB.

MACHINE666
06-09-2012, 09:36 AM
I'll have the strippers at the Tennessee Golden Nights in Landstuhl all gather together and pose for a photo to show support!

:D :D :D :D :D

KellyinAvon
06-09-2012, 10:57 AM
Our thoughts and prayers are with ChiefB and his family.

Robert F. Dorr
06-09-2012, 11:35 AM
Wishing the very best for ChiefB for a speedy recovery and return to these forums. ChiefB can be very proud of his son for keeping friends informed.

SgtS
06-09-2012, 12:23 PM
Best wishes and prayers to ChiefB and family. Here's to a speedy recovery!

Battleshort
06-09-2012, 12:36 PM
Get well Chief!

chEMguy407
06-09-2012, 02:23 PM
God Bless and God Speed ChiefB!

DocBones
06-09-2012, 02:24 PM
ChiefB,

My prayers are with you!

Drackore
06-09-2012, 02:56 PM
Tell him to walk it off.

Meantime, in seriousness, send him all our well wishes.

giggawatt
06-09-2012, 05:15 PM
I find it amazing the outpouring of support for someone that none of us have probably met. But when that support is for someone like ChiefB, it doesn't surprise me. The good chief has touched so many on these forums with his advice and insight. The man is still taking care of airmen. Of course, I also wish him well and a speedy recovery. Thanks for the update David.

PickYourBattles
06-09-2012, 05:29 PM
You can never get enough wisdom and advice from a Chief, get well soon.

tiredretiredE7
06-09-2012, 05:46 PM
This is ChiefB’s son, David, whom he has written about often. I am proud to be the son of a man that not only supports me as a gay man, but also supports anyone, especially service men and women, both straight and gay, who need someone to be a voice for them. Today, I am the voice for my father who cannot write to you personally. But in ChiefB’s stead, I wanted to let you know where and what he has been up to.

To cut to the chase, I am right now with ChiefB in the CCU (Critical Care Unit) of a Cardiac Hospital in West Texas. You may have noticed that the old Chiefly curmudgeon has been silent recently. Well, it's because of an infection in his heart that has knocked him out of the loop for a bit. ChiefB is looking forward to being there with his fellow military brothers and sisters, and wants to apologize for not being around lately. He deeply regrets not being able to answer or update any of his posts.

As he lies here in CCU, he wants all of you to know what is in store for him in the very near future. This Monday, doctors have scheduled open heart surgery to repair a damaged valve due to the infection and an arterial bypass. The average recovery from this type of surgery is three to six months.

In ChiefB’s words, “If he successfully makes the cut, he looks forward to seeing you all online.”

Thanks so much for your time, and I too will be praying for ChiefB’s speedy recovery. I'm so happy my dad is as proud of me as I am of him, especially as he continues to fight for the rights of others in all areas of life. Wishing all of you great health!


ChiefB’s son, David

David,

ChiefB was one of the select few Chiefs that always had the right answer contrary to the AF PC answer. ChiefB is a true Chief and a mentor to me since Chiefs like your dad are the exception and not the rule. I knew the AF lost a great leader when he retired and his illness hits close to home.

Best wishes to you and your family.

VFFSSGT
06-09-2012, 05:47 PM
That was a breath taking post to read...wishing the best for him and a quick recovery. Please keep us updated if you can!

oregonbean
06-09-2012, 08:55 PM
Get well soon ChiefB--we miss you around here! The oregonbean family will be keeping you and your family in our thoughts.

Red Mustang
06-09-2012, 09:39 PM
My thoughts are with you and your family Chief B. I have found your advice and musings inspirational and always on target. Hoping for a speedy recovery. David...a big thank you for posting and sharing.

Your_Name_Here
06-10-2012, 03:40 AM
At a time when the AF--and the world at large--need people like ChiefB more than ever: I'll be praying for a speedy recovery for him, and some peace of mind for his family and friends.

ChiefB
06-10-2012, 06:47 PM
This is ChiefB's daughter, he goes in for aortic heart valve replacement and bypass surgery early tomorrow morning. I will post operation updates and results tomorrow evening. Thank you for your kind words and prayers.
Kim Williams

Tak
06-10-2012, 06:51 PM
Guess ill be talking to ChiefB about password security when he returns :)

imported_DannyJ
06-10-2012, 06:59 PM
My sincerest thoughts and prayers. BTW, you've got one helluva dad there.

js7799
06-10-2012, 10:13 PM
Get well soon Chief!

Banned
06-10-2012, 10:16 PM
Guess ill be talking to ChiefB about password security when he returns :)

He's old enough... he might not know what that is. XP

Get well soon, and get yer ass back here!

JD2780
06-10-2012, 10:58 PM
Tak his kids probably made it for him!!!

We will all be thinking of him tomorrow morning.

USMC0341
06-10-2012, 11:11 PM
Hope all goes well tomorrow for ChiefB, thanks for keeping us in the loop.

TJMAC77SP
06-11-2012, 10:29 AM
Damn, I am out of pocket for a weekend and bad news drops. My best wishes to ChiefB for a quick recovery.

usaf2010
06-11-2012, 12:15 PM
David,
Prayers for your Father and for the Doctors who will be preforming the Surgery! May God wrap his arms around your Family and hold you in his strength in the coming days! Peace be with you all!

Robert F. Dorr
06-11-2012, 12:17 PM
Everyone here is rooting and praying for the kanakadude and for a successful outcome to today's procedure. Can't wait to have him return to this venue and resume giving me a hard time.

Calmo70
06-11-2012, 12:53 PM
Wishing the best for ChiefB and his family.

ChiefB
06-11-2012, 02:18 PM
Good morning All, Dads surgery has been postponed due to low platelet count. He is back in his original room in icu and doing well. His appetite is great and he is talking to everyone with very clear thoughts. Will keep everyone updated. Thank you all again for all you replies and prayers. He is enjoying reading them.
Kim

raider8169
06-11-2012, 02:38 PM
Good morning All, Dads surgery has been postponed due to low platelet count. He is back in his original room in icu and doing well. His appetite is great and he is talking to everyone with very clear thoughts. Will keep everyone updated. Thank you all again for all you replies and prayers. He is enjoying reading them.
Kim

Any chance for an address so we can send gifts/flowers?

I wish you guys the best! Let us know if we can help in any way!

Slyoldawg
06-11-2012, 05:28 PM
David, there is proof right here in this forum that your Dad, ChiefB, is one of a kind and stands alone at the top of my list. I have been a member of this forum for several years and your Dad is the only one who requested to be my "Friend" here. That is proof positive to me that he is "One of a kind" My wishes to you and your family that ChiefB recovers soon and goes home to his loving family. He is in my prayers.

ChiefB
06-12-2012, 04:12 AM
Good evening all. Update as of tonight is no surgery until Dad's platelets are up to 100,000. They are currently at 57,000. He has asked that donations to the American Diabetis be made instead of gifts and cards. He is really enjoying the messages from everyone. Please continue them and again, thank you all for your prayers.
The Chiefs daughter, Kim

ChiefB
06-12-2012, 04:13 AM
Good evening all. Update as of tonight is no surgery until Dad's platelets are up to 100,000. They are currently at 57,000. He has asked that donations to the American Diabetis be made instead of gifts and cards. He is really enjoying the messages from everyone. Please continue them and again, thank you all for your prayers.
The Chiefs daughter, Kim

VFFSSGT
06-12-2012, 04:21 AM
Thanks for the update! Hoping for improvement soon so he can get the surgery he needs!

PickYourBattles
06-12-2012, 04:24 AM
Tell the Chief to eat some more platelets!

F4CrewChick
06-12-2012, 04:28 AM
Thank you for the update Kim...crossing fingers and toes. Sending thrombocyte-mania your Dad's way. Praying his platelet count steadily increases and all things go his way. Chief B is so blessed to have you all around him and I send my very best.

-Michelle (F4CC)

KellyinAvon
06-12-2012, 08:08 AM
Thanks for the info Kim. Your Dad has no doubt affected a lot of folks in a very great way. There are a lot of people on this forum pulling for him and we only know him by his avatar and the words he types. Our thoughts and prayers are with ChiefB and his family.

usaf2010
06-12-2012, 03:04 PM
Prayers being sent for ChiefB

CMSBROWN
06-12-2012, 03:24 PM
Wow! I go away for awhile and a fellow Chief is down..WTH ChiefB!

You better get your but back to standards and quick! HOOAH!

Prayers to you and your family brother! We wish you nothing but a speedy and healthy recovery!

ChiefB
06-13-2012, 12:47 AM
Good evening all. Dad is still in a holding pattern for surgery. Dr's still don't know why he isn't producing platelets so they will keep him in hospital until he's ready for surgery. His appetite is great and he's trying really hard to stay positive. Again, thank you for your continued replies and prayers.
The Chiefs, very proud, daughter Kim

JD2780
06-13-2012, 12:54 AM
Good evening all. Dad is still in a holding pattern for surgery. Dr's still don't know why he isn't producing platelets so they will keep him in hospital until he's ready for surgery. His appetite is great and he's trying really hard to stay positive. Again, thank you for your continued replies and prayers.
The Chiefs, very proud, daughter Kim

How are you guys doing Kim? We're all worried about your dad, but he has hospital staff and 1,000 medical folks taking care of him. Make sure you guys take care of yourselves also. I hope your dad gets better, he's helped me out tons around the AF.

F4CrewChick
06-13-2012, 04:45 AM
How are you guys doing Kim? We're all worried about your dad, but he has hospital staff and 1,000 medical folks taking care of him. Make sure you guys take care of yourselves also. I hope your dad gets better, he's helped me out tons around the AF.
Ditto JD's statement--Kim & David, please know you can come here for support--and your dad has my phone number if you need to talk. Sometime talking to people outside the situation can be cathartic and helpful in times of stress. Glad to here Chief is in a holding pattern with a good appetite. Please continue to keep up apprised of the situation. Thanks.

Brewhound
06-13-2012, 01:35 PM
I wish him the very best and a speedy n` sure recovery. You are in my prayers.

crustybfv
06-13-2012, 03:50 PM
So I take some time off, and finally get around to reading/posting...I'll echo these comments! Kim & David, your Dad's a really great guy - hope the recovery's quick!

ChiefB
06-14-2012, 01:28 AM
Good evening all. Dad is doing really well, his appetite is good and his attitude is positive. He had rehab this morning, walking 130 feet, sat in his chair most of the morning,then went on and walked another 185 feet in the afternoon. This week, a couple of "thugs" damaged a building on the campground and vandalized the motel by throwing the outdoor furniture and equipment into the pool. Fortunatly, there was no great damage to the campground. As of today, and this might change, his surgery will be postponed for four weeks while his blood platelets increase and he can continue to fight the infection in his blood. The doctors are going to move him to a hospital closer to home that is less expensive than the "digs" he is in now. He will need to continue to have close care but not in the ICU. Any changes will be posted as soon as I know. Please continue with the wonderful replies and prayers. They are greatly appreciated.
The Chief's daughter, Kim, and granddaughter, Dava

F4CrewChick
06-14-2012, 01:34 AM
Positive news! Sorry about the camp--people are really a-holes sometimes. The move closer to home sounds good too. Have you checked with the VA to get some home healthcare? It is available. Thanks for keeping us in the loop.

KellyinAvon
06-14-2012, 01:39 AM
Positive news! Sorry about the camp--people are really a-holes sometimes. The move closer to home sounds good too. Have you checked with the VA to get some home healthcare? It is available. Thanks for keeping us in the loop.

I mean this in all seriousness: if the VA Med Center (or any other hospital) is a teaching hospital, do not go there in July. The residents are brand new and don't know sh!t. They get younger every year too!

KellyinAvon
06-14-2012, 01:41 AM
Good evening all. Dad is doing really well, his appetite is good and his attitude is positive. He had rehab this morning, walking 130 feet, sat in his chair most of the morning,then went on and walked another 185 feet in the afternoon. This week, a couple of "thugs" damaged a building on the campground and vandalized the motel by throwing the outdoor furniture and equipment into the pool. Fortunatly, there was no great damage to the campground. As of today, and this might change, his surgery will be postponed for four weeks while his blood platelets increase and he can continue to fight the infection in his blood. The doctors are going to move him to a hospital closer to home that is less expensive than the "digs" he is in now. He will need to continue to have close care but not in the ICU. Any changes will be posted as soon as I know. Please continue with the wonderful replies and prayers. They are greatly appreciated.
The Chief's daughter, Kim, and granddaughter, Dava

Great to hear the news Kim. Please let ChiefB know there are a lot of folks wishing him well.

PickYourBattles
06-14-2012, 01:42 AM
Hang in there guys!

F4CrewChick
06-14-2012, 01:47 AM
I mean this in all seriousness: if the VA Med Center (or any other hospital) is a teaching hospital, do not go there in July. The residents are brand new and don't know sh!t. They get younger every year too!I couldn't agree more...July 1 is when my residency starts...lol... I was talking about home care from the VA after The Chief goes home. It's no accident I get surgeries when I need them in June. Some say there's 'senioritis' but I find everyone is on their "A" game because they're just about to get a promotion in the medical hierarchy that is medical education.

OtisRNeedleman
06-14-2012, 02:12 AM
Positive news! Sorry about the camp--people are really a-holes sometimes. The move closer to home sounds good too. Have you checked with the VA to get some home healthcare? It is available. Thanks for keeping us in the loop. Indeed. You get better quicker at home than in any hospital.

Battleshort
06-15-2012, 09:42 AM
Great news!!!!!!!!!

Robert F. Dorr
06-15-2012, 10:50 AM
...his attitude is positive...

It always is. That's why he stands out here. Wishing a speedy recovery to him and the best to his family.

ChiefB
06-17-2012, 08:59 PM
Good afternoon all. Dad has been moved to the rehabilitation floor to work on therapy for the right side of his body and memory recovery from the stroke. He will also be waiting for platelet growth for surgery and for the antibiotics to kill the infection in his blood, on his heart, and aorta. This should be about 4 - 5 weeks. He is doing excellent. All is good. Thank you all for your replies and prayers. As soon as his dexterity improves and he can work his computer.
The Chiefs daughter, Kim

ChiefB
06-17-2012, 09:00 PM
Good afternoon all. Dad has been moved to the rehabilitation floor to work on therapy for the right side of his body and memory recovery from the stroke. He will also be waiting for platelet growth for surgery and for the antibiotics to kill the infection in his blood, on his heart, and aorta. This should be about 4 - 5 weeks. He is doing excellent. All is good. Thank you all for your replies and prayers. As soon as his dexterity improves and he can work his computer.
The Chiefs daughter, Kim

Tak
06-17-2012, 09:11 PM
Good afternoon all. Dad has been moved to the rehabilitation floor to work on therapy for the right side of his body and memory recovery from the stroke. He will also be waiting for platelet growth for surgery and for the antibiotics to kill the infection in his blood, on his heart, and aorta. This should be about 4 - 5 weeks. He is doing excellent. All is good. Thank you all for your replies and prayers. As soon as his dexterity improves and he can work his computer.
The Chiefs daughter, Kim

Tellem happy fathers day.

KellyinAvon
06-17-2012, 09:12 PM
Good afternoon all. Dad has been moved to the rehabilitation floor to work on therapy for the right side of his body and memory recovery from the stroke. He will also be waiting for platelet growth for surgery and for the antibiotics to kill the infection in his blood, on his heart, and aorta. This should be about 4 - 5 weeks. He is doing excellent. All is good. Thank you all for your replies and prayers. As soon as his dexterity improves and he can work his computer.
The Chiefs daughter, Kim

Thanks for the updates Kim. Please tell your Dad to get well, this bunch (myself included) needs all the adult supervision we can get.:biggrin

F4CrewChick
06-18-2012, 12:48 AM
Happy Fathers Day Chief B!!! <3<3<3 May all the love and support around you today on your special day buoy your spirits, boost your platelets, attack that infection and let you continue to move into healing. You are much loved and missed here at the Forum and you know you have a special place in my heart. May prayers are with you and the family everyday and we await your return will full, glad hearts.

Love to You Dearest Chief- F4CrewChick

Weather Girl
06-18-2012, 01:04 AM
My thoughts are with you and your family, ChiefB. We miss you. Get well soon!

Old Fart IV
06-18-2012, 01:09 AM
My thoughts are with you (ChiefB) for a speedy recovery, and happy Father's day too you old fart!

PT GOD
06-18-2012, 07:13 AM
some guys will do anything to get a PT waiver

MSgtHadEnuff
06-18-2012, 07:13 PM
You, PT GOD, are an incredible douche and a deplorable f*** stick. A man is sick and hospitalized and all you can think about is making some wise ass comment to make yourself seem funny? Maybe you should take a page from Chief B's book and contribute something meaningful. Maybe, and JUST maybe, you might gain a fraction of the respect the Chief has. Until then, you are a dumb ass, piss-ant, computer thug.

Hopefully, nothing like this ever happens to one of your loved ones...if you have any, but if it does, that's karma knocking' fella.

JD2780
06-18-2012, 07:21 PM
You, PT GOD, are an incredible douche and a deplorable f*** stick. A man is sick and hospitalized and all you can think about is making some wise ass comment to make yourself seem funny? Maybe you should take a page from Chief B's book and contribute something meaningful. Maybe, and JUST maybe, you might gain a fraction of the respect the Chief has. Until then, you are a dumb ass, piss-ant, computer thug.

Hopefully, nothing like this ever happens to one of your loved ones...if you have any, but if it does, that's karma knocking' fella.


Dont take anything he says literally. He's just a troll stirring the pot. Look at it as comedy getting ChiefB to laugh a bit.

MSgtHadEnuff
06-18-2012, 07:24 PM
Dont take anything he says literally. He's just a troll stirring the pot. Look at it as comedy getting ChiefB to laugh a bit.

Understood, but the Chief's kids are reading this, as well, and I'm sure they don't want to see some tool write nonsense like this. Just disrespectful, that's all.

PT GOD
06-18-2012, 08:13 PM
You, PT GOD, are an incredible douche and a deplorable f*** stick. A man is sick and hospitalized and all you can think about is making some wise ass comment to make yourself seem funny? Maybe you should take a page from Chief B's book and contribute something meaningful. Maybe, and JUST maybe, you might gain a fraction of the respect the Chief has. Until then, you are a dumb ass, piss-ant, computer thug.

Hopefully, nothing like this ever happens to one of your loved ones...if you have any, but if it does, that's karma knocking' fella.

Relax nancy, it was a joke, and chief b did or will laugh when he reads it

JD2780
06-18-2012, 09:32 PM
Relax nancy, it was a joke, and chief b did or will laugh when he reads it

I actually defend you, and you go and be a DB.

Shrike
06-18-2012, 09:39 PM
Relax nancy, it was a joke, and chief b did or will laugh when he reads it

There's a time and a place for most things. This is neither the time nor place for your fucking dumbass routine.

Absinthe Anecdote
06-18-2012, 10:17 PM
Get well ChiefB!

My thoughts are with you.

OtisRNeedleman
06-19-2012, 01:26 AM
There's a time and a place for most things. This is neither the time nor place for your fucking dumbass routine.

Indeed. Open-heart surgery is no joke. Had the same surgery last month as ChiefB is scheduled for. And to have such surgery on top of recovering from a stroke is mighty serious indeed. ChiefB needs our prayers and our support, not smartass remarks.

PickYourBattles
06-19-2012, 02:35 AM
Relax nancy, it was a joke, and chief b did or will laugh when he reads it

What a jerk you are PTGOD!

Please accept my insult, designed to show all involved that I am better than you, more compassionate, more politically correct, etc etc. Vote for Pedro, he didn't tell a joke!

Please disregard that that I may have no sense of humor, and that I apparently think a CMSgt (or those who know him), who has weathered years of challenge and stress and made it to the top, would in any way find your obvious joke somehow offensive.

Sad to see so many so quick to pile on for a quick score in "online social reputation points." This forum really is like a junior high school lunch table at times. Grow up you nancies.

If the Chief says otherwise, I'll retract my statement. Otherwise, nobody else has room to pipe in, being that the non-mean-spirited humor (a great thing during serious human challenges), was offered up to the Chief.

Tak
06-19-2012, 02:51 AM
I don't think pt gods post was that bad. It was total sarcasm. Using
Humor in painful situation...ever see Patch Adams.

Z1911
06-19-2012, 03:10 AM
I don't think pt gods post was that bad. It was total sarcasm. Using
Humor in painful situation...ever see Patch Adams.

+1, and I have no doubt ChiefB, who probably had PT God pegged from the git-go, took the post in the way it was most likely intended. I just hope he doesn't pop a stitch from laughing at PT God.

OtisRNeedleman
06-19-2012, 03:29 AM
+1, and I have no doubt ChiefB, who probably had PT God pegged from the git-go, took the post in the way it was most likely intended. I just hope he doesn't pop a stitch from laughing at PT God.

I hear you, but, having just had the surgery, I can tell you neither the diagnosis, nor all the tests, nor the surgery are worth a laugh.

Having said that, here is something worth a chuckle. Couple of weeks ago got an ID card from the company who manufactured my new aortic valve. Has the device's model number and serial number, among other things. Made me wonder just what would happen if they recalled my valve. Would an 18-wheeler with an operating room, an ICU, and a regular hospital room show up at my house? Or would I just get a voucher to have a replacement done at my local hospital? Or what? LOL

Shrike
06-19-2012, 11:38 AM
I don't think pt gods post was that bad. It was total sarcasm. Using
Humor in painful situation...ever see Patch Adams.

Patch Adams is a loathsome human being and his story was made into an even loathsomer movie.

Robert F. Dorr
06-28-2012, 10:04 AM
I rang ChiefB's home yesterday and no one was picking up. Hope he is recovering well.

imported_LOAL-D
06-28-2012, 06:26 PM
Get well ChiefB!

TJMAC77SP
06-28-2012, 07:06 PM
Patch Adams is a loathsome human being and his story was made into an even loathsomer movie.

Is (or was) he? I know nothing about him aside from the movie.

F4CrewChick
06-28-2012, 08:13 PM
Hoping for an update from Kim or David soon and I send the Chief daily thoughts of higher platelet counts...

CMSBROWN
07-03-2012, 07:48 PM
Hoping for an update from Kim or David soon and I send the Chief daily thoughts of higher platelet counts...

Hoping to get a status check of Chief B..... Over....

VFFSSGT
07-03-2012, 09:15 PM
Been thinking about him too wondering how he was doing...

Robert F. Dorr
07-03-2012, 09:48 PM
Memory issues. Kidney issues. Fluid in the lungs. A heart infection. Surgery yesterday in connection with an aorta valve. He is in the ICU. That's what I learned in a telephone conversation with Jimmy, who works for ChiefB in the RV park. ChiefB is in ICU at the Odessa Medical Center. Will he recover fully? Jimmy said he is hopeful and said it would be okay for me to share this news.

F4CrewChick
07-04-2012, 01:00 AM
Thanks Robert for sharing this info. Prayers go out to Chief B for a full recovery. Fingers crossed.

Robert F. Dorr
07-05-2012, 11:54 PM
ChiefB is still in the intensive care unit at the Odessa hospital, which is a three-hour drive or about 190 miles from his home, and Missus ChiefB is camped out near the hospital. As of Thursday night, Jimmy has nothing to add to my post of two days ago. Everyone is hopeful that ChiefB will be back soon. I know I need his advice and wisdom.

JD2780
07-06-2012, 01:55 AM
Yea this place has to gone to hell in a hand basket with out him around.

F4CrewChick
07-06-2012, 02:00 AM
Thanks for the update RFD. With what you described earlier as Chief status, it will be a while before his multiple issues resolve. First and foremost is the infection. I'm sure he is on an antibiotic cocktail, fluids and very close monitoring. Once the infection is resolved, he can begin to recover from the surgery. He stays present in my prayers.

imported_DannyJ
07-06-2012, 10:04 AM
Yea this place has to gone to hell in a hand basket with out him around.

Questioning others integrity, hurt feelings, cats and dogs getting married... WHAT'S NEXT?!

Robert F. Dorr
07-07-2012, 07:38 PM
Just had a call from Jimmy at the RV Park. Chief B is now out of the ICU and off the respirator. He still needs occasional oxygen but is improving. He will see kidney and heart specialists in the next day or so and has a good chance of coming home in a week or so.

JD2780
07-07-2012, 07:41 PM
Questioning others integrity, hurt feelings, cats and dogs getting married... WHAT'S NEXT?!

Zombies. Damn zombies

Absinthe Anecdote
07-07-2012, 07:42 PM
Hang in there ChiefB!

USMC0341
07-07-2012, 07:47 PM
Great news. Hope he keeps getting better.

Shrike
07-07-2012, 07:50 PM
Just had a call from Jimmy at the RV Park. Chief B is now out of the ICU and off the respirator. He still needs occasional oxygen but is improving. He will see kidney and heart specialists in the next day or so and has a good chance of coming home in a week or so.

Good news. Thanks for the update.

OtisRNeedleman
07-07-2012, 08:39 PM
Just had a call from Jimmy at the RV Park. Chief B is now out of the ICU and off the respirator. He still needs occasional oxygen but is improving. He will see kidney and heart specialists in the next day or so and has a good chance of coming home in a week or so.

Good deal. I know ChiefB will be glad to get home. Once home, he can get some real rest and heal up.

Battleshort
07-11-2012, 03:57 PM
What's the latest on ChiefB?

Robert F. Dorr
07-14-2012, 06:51 PM
I just spent 30 minutes on the phone with ChiefB after first spending 30 minutes on the phone with Missus ChiefB.

ChiefB himself will be posting something in the near future.

My notes:

Him: "It started out as a big medical problem and it became miraculous."

Her: "We live out in the middle of nowhere in the mountains of Texas."

He started feeling badly in March. He had his 70th birthday on May 15. He had a stroke on May 30. He was evacuated by air using a fixed-wing aircraft to Odessa (cost of the medevac flight: $40,000). Today, she credits the stroke with saving his life from other causes because it got him to the hospital where, belatedly, his viral infection was discovered.

Him: "I had never been in a hospital overnight in my life." Him again: "I never cost the Air Force one single dime medically."

A doctor saw him in May but no one knew he had an infectious viral disease around his heart until some time after he was hospitalized. He had never been in a hospital before when they told him that he would have to undergo very difficult and dangerous surgery. His surgery was last Monday morning July 9. They replaced an aortic valve and did one bypass.

Now, he is in the middle of 10 to 14 days of rehab for his right side where the stroke occurred. His kidneys, which were functioning poorly for several days, are performing well now. He gets six hours of therapy every day. He is finishing treatment tomorrow for that formerly life-threatening viral infection. He has gotten through a period when he remained at risk for another stroke and/or heart attack. He is having a problem with memory but is able to have a conversation. The memory problem part is Missus ChiefB's words but there was no sign of it in my phone conversation with him.

He has his laptop in rehab. She is hoping that by the last week in July or the first week in August he will come home.

Him: "I feel terrific. I'm embarrassed at how good I feel."

ChiefB acknowledges that he was not having regular check-ups in recent years. He says his viral infection must have come from a dental issue from months earlier. He quotes a doctor as calling him "negligent" about check-ups. He has lost about 30 pounds and he was not overweight to begin with. Him: "I'm going to urge everyone to have good regular health checkups."

ChiefB is fortunate to have a strong spouse and family.

For details about how to contact ChiefB by phone contact me by e-mail or phone.

technomage1
07-14-2012, 07:33 PM
That's great news! Speedy recovery, ChiefB.

Shrike
07-14-2012, 07:37 PM
That's great news! Speedy recovery, ChiefB.

Seconded. Thanks for the update, Bob.

KellyinAvon
07-14-2012, 07:40 PM
Seconded. Thanks for the update, Bob.
Thirded, great news, looking forward to having ChiefB around for a long time.

Tak
07-14-2012, 07:47 PM
Hope he's ready for pt threads

Prior to 04 pt threads 0, after 04 - 1,267

OtisRNeedleman
07-14-2012, 10:20 PM
Glad to hear ChiefB is doing better. He had the same surgery I had in May - new aortic valve and a bypass. If he thinks he is feeling good now, just wait until he gets home and can get back to his usual routine and usual rest pattern. ChiefB will feel a quantum leap better.

Robert F. Dorr
07-15-2012, 11:28 AM
What's the policy in the military regarding a periodic medical examination? If you're on active duty, do you get one periodically? How often? What tests are conducted?

technomage1
07-15-2012, 11:55 AM
What's the policy in the military regarding a periodic medical examination? If you're on active duty, do you get one periodically? How often? What tests are conducted?

You do an online questionnaire every year. Every 5 years you get hauled in for a face to face. Tests depend on th members age and sex, as well as medical history. Everyone gets their shots updated and HIV screening annually. I can't think of any others that everyone gets.

Honestly, shots and HIV test aside, my routine exams are over in 5 minutes. No, no, no, no, no problems bye. Its more of a bother than a benefit.

Tak
07-15-2012, 02:43 PM
What's the policy in the military regarding a periodic medical examination? If you're on active duty, do you get one periodically? How often? What tests are conducted?

I'm not gonna blab on, but every year you do a PHA.
When I came in they were yearly physicals, he grabbed
My nuts and I coughed.
Bob, my nuts haven't been grabbed in probably 15 years.
They don't care about health or diagnosis, they care if your
Able to breathe/deploy/pass a pt test.
If your under 26, they make you test for STD's.

Robert F. Dorr
07-15-2012, 02:46 PM
Mine were, but not by a doctor. And, man, what a relief to know that you can't get STDs (a term I think I recognize) after age 26. Here I was, silly me, thinking it could happen at any age.

Tak
07-15-2012, 02:55 PM
Mine were, but not by a doctor. And, man, what a relief to know that you can't get STDs (a term I think I recognize) after age 26. Here I was, silly me, thinking it could happen at any age.
Funding only available to test those in high risk categories, those out their banging anything that moves.
Maybe they'll test more now DADT is over and their could be more brown sex.

Robert F. Dorr
08-14-2012, 08:12 PM
I spent about 20 minutes on the phone today (August 14) with Chief B. His heart surgery is all healed. He still has difficulty using his right side because of the stroke he experienced. "I'm learning to use my right side all over again." He has difficulty typing but is getting better and expects to return to the forums.

USMC0369
08-14-2012, 08:17 PM
My thoughts are with you, Chief. I don't know anything about you outside this forum, but I still consider you a mentor. Recover soon.

Shrike
08-14-2012, 08:50 PM
I spent about 20 minutes on the phone today (August 14) with Chief B. His heart surgery is all healed. He still has difficulty using his right side because of the stroke he experienced. "I'm learning to use my right side all over again." He has difficulty typing but is getting better and expects to return to the forums.

Thanks for the update.

F4CrewChick
08-14-2012, 09:06 PM
My Dearest ChiefB,

You are in my thoughts with a frequency I hope you can feel as you recover from your trials. I know you are surrounded by love and loving people. Rest and work hard to rejoin us as soon as you are able. Big hugs to you.

-Michelle

USMC0341
08-14-2012, 09:09 PM
Thanks for the update, great to hear ChiefB is doing good on the road to recovery; can't wait till he is back on here sharing his wisdom.

KellyinAvon
08-14-2012, 11:32 PM
Thanks for the update Bob. It's great to hear ChiefB is on the mend.

CrustySMSgt
08-15-2012, 04:01 AM
Glad to hear things are looking up; thanks for the update!

OtisRNeedleman
08-15-2012, 04:18 AM
Good news, indeed. Am sure ChiefB will be back in action here soon.

Old Fart IV
08-15-2012, 04:28 AM
Great to hear the Chief is back!

Get yourself well soon as someone needs to knock our Air Force back into fighting shape with your word of wisdom. You will probably be just as anry to "young-ins" as you were way-way back when we were stationed (and sometimes worked) together.

JR.

ChiefB
11-10-2012, 07:46 AM
To the greatest bunch of cyber friends and acquaintances, AF, Marines, Army and Navy, civilians and retirees a guy could have along with a great family and foreign friends that traveled from far flung States, Holland and as far away as China, I say to you all how touched I was with your generosity, concern, love and friendship during this past 5 plus month odyssey. Thank you so very much.

I am recovering well with a strong heart and a bit of dullness in my right side that makes me very carefull when moving about. I am mobile and able to do most anything except heavy lifting and downhill skiing.:violinMy typing is coming along but of the hunt-and-peck order, currently.

A special thank you to TAK, Shrike, BRUWIN, JD2780, USMC0341, KellyinAvon, technomage1, Machine666, Pullinteeth, ART, FLAPS, Robert F Dorr, Rainmaker, Joe Bonham, Measure Man, AJbigJ, Bunch, Jamethon, den_mom, F4CrewChick, Venus, AFKilo7, Shaken1976, Mr Happy, OtisRNeedleman, Slyoldawg, SgtS, Battleshort, chEMguy407, DocBones, Drockore, giggawatt, PickYourBattles, tiredretiredE7, VFFSSGT, oregonbean, Red Mustang, Your_Name_Here, DannyJ, js7799, TJMAC77SP, USAF2010, Calmo70, raider8169, CMSBROWN, Brewhound, crustybfv, Weather Girl, OldFartIV, PTGOD:wave, MSgtHadEnuff, AbsintheAnecdote, LOAL-D, CrustyS/CMSgt and all the others I may have left out here who emailed, phoned, or posted so many good wishes and kind words.

It has been a genuine, thoughtful exchange over many threads, phone calls and emails that warmed my heart and helped me through a most difficult time. In addition to my wonderful family and circle of friends around the world, the miracle of medicine and great care provided to me by the many doctors, nurses, medtechs and therapy specialists, your concern, best wishes and friendship brought tears to my eyes on many occasions.

Your friendly comments to my wife and children were especially touching and very considerate. Robert Dorr's staying in contact with many phone calls and his reporting of my condition on these threads was especially kind and thoughtful along with the dissertation written by OtisRNeedleman on his recent operation that was a basic mirror of mine, minus a few hiccups on my part. ORN, I hope you are well. ART's words of affection were especially touching as were those of so many others. A special shout out to F4CrewChick for your warm words to me and my family members (whattagal) and AF Times for making our commiseration possible.

You all have been a source of support and affection through these many months that I will never forget and always treasure. Thank you again.

I wish you all a great Veteran's Day.

Warmest regards,

Dave

P.S. I will be back!

Drackore
11-10-2012, 09:14 AM
Well let me be the first to say: Damn glad to hear and see this!

Keep getting better. This is some good news, and I'm glad to hear the positive outlook.

Robert F. Dorr
11-10-2012, 09:23 AM
It's terrific that you're so positive and upbeat, ChiefB.

Everything has gone to hell here since you left. The mayor of Wendover is in jail for tampering with the HMFIC election results in BFE. OtisRNeedleman has started putting up posts that are intelligent and make sense. Tak is being pressured into retirement after taking money from the Special Interests in the HMFIC election. Shrike was last seen entering a thread with no exit, arm-in-arm with Grammar Police. The Russians are developing a new nuclear warhead with help from Putin's mistress. RS6405 was spotted hanging around with some kid with a skateboard. F4crewchick is trying to put negative rep points on failed Senate candidate Todd Akin. It's a regular mess here, ChiefB. And with the HMFIC election results being disputed and Tak's political action committee threatening to sue, nobody's in charge. Everyone is glad you're doing better and looking forward to your complete recovery and return so you can straighten out everybody around here.

Very glad to see your thoughtful and heartfelt post.

KellyinAvon
11-10-2012, 11:08 AM
ChiefB IS BACK!!!:thumb:thumb:thumb:thumb
It's great to have you back with us ChiefB. There was a significant void around here without you (and I don't mean a Blutarsky 5MT fill the void, void). No one can fill the role of "voice of reason and elder statesman" like you.
As far as being a 2-finger typist: I recommend the 2 index fingers with thumb for spacebar method.

Again, great to have you back Chief.

Kelly (in Avon)

imported_DannyJ
11-10-2012, 12:08 PM
Awesome to have you back Chief! :rockon:rockon:rockon

oregonbean
11-10-2012, 01:04 PM
So happy to see you back ChiefB!!!!

RS6405
11-10-2012, 01:18 PM
Wonderful to have you back ChiefB!!!

Jamethon
11-10-2012, 01:37 PM
This gave me slight chills. Glad to see you back!

KRC
11-10-2012, 02:18 PM
Glad you're back Chief B.

insidiousbookworm
11-10-2012, 02:50 PM
That's the best thing I've read on here in a long time.

VFFTSGT
11-10-2012, 05:06 PM
To the greatest bunch of cyber friends and acquaintances, AF, Marines, Army and Navy, civilians and retirees a guy could have along with a great family and foreign friends that traveled from far flung States, Holland and as far away as China, I say to you all how touched I was with your generosity, concern, love and friendship during this past 5 plus month odyssey. Thank you so very much.

I am recovering well with a strong heart and a bit of dullness in my right side that makes me very carefull when moving about. I am mobile and able to do most anything except heavy lifting and downhill skiing.:violinMy typing is coming along but of the hunt-and-peck order, currently.

A special thank you to TAK, Shrike, BRUWIN, JD2780, USMC0341, KellyinAvon, technomage1, Machine666, Pullinteeth, ART, FLAPS, Robert F Dorr, Rainmaker, Joe Bonham, Measure Man, AJbigJ, Bunch, Jamethon, den_mom, F4CrewChick, Venus, AFKilo7, Shaken1976, Mr Happy, OtisRNeedleman, Slyoldawg, SgtS, Battleshort, chEMguy407, DocBones, Drockore, giggawatt, PickYourBattles, tiredretiredE7, VFFSSGT, oregonbean, Red Mustang, Your_Name_Here, DannyJ, js7799, TJMAC77SP, USAF2010, Calmo70, raider8169, CMSBROWN, Brewhound, crustybfv, Weather Girl, OldFartIV, PTGOD:wave, MSgtHadEnuff, AbsintheAnecdote, LOAL-D, CrustyS/CMSgt and all the others I may have left out here who emailed, phoned, or posted so many good wishes and kind words.

It has been a genuine, thoughtful exchange over many threads, phone calls and emails that warmed my heart and helped me through a most difficult time. In addition to my wonderful family and circle of friends around the world, the miracle of medicine and great care provided to me by the many doctors, nurses, medtechs and therapy specialists, your concern, best wishes and friendship brought tears to my eyes on many occasions.

Your friendly comments to my wife and children were especially touching and very considerate. Robert Dorr's staying in contact with many phone calls and his reporting of my condition on these threads was especially kind and thoughtful along with the dissertation written by OtisRNeedleman on his recent operation that was a basic mirror of mine, minus a few hiccups on my part. ORN, I hope you are well. ART's words of affection were especially touching as were those of so many others. A special shout out to F4CrewChick for your warm words to me and my family members (whattagal) and AF Times for making our commiseration possible.

You all have been a source of support and affection through these many months that I will never forget and always treasure. Thank you again.

I wish you all a great Veteran's Day.

Warmest regards,

Dave

P.S. I will be back!

Good to see you up and around again! :)

PickYourBattles
11-10-2012, 06:27 PM
Right on Chief - good news.

OtisRNeedleman
11-10-2012, 08:40 PM
ChiefB, mighty glad you are back. Just celebrated the six-month anniversary of my surgery. So far, so good. No chest pains or tightness. No shortness of breath. Major echocardiogram in July showed things were looking good so cardiologist pushed next appointment back to January from October. Still fighting battle of the bulge but went back to work in October. Hey, it's all good and I'm glad you are doing better.

Otis

668203
11-11-2012, 12:37 AM
:wave :wave :wave

Chief B,

Glad to hear you are on the mend. You are in my prayers. Have a Happy Veteran's Day! Thanks for keeping us safe.

:usa2
66

technomage1
11-11-2012, 12:59 AM
Great news, glad to hear you are on the mend.

combatgf
11-11-2012, 05:38 AM
:rockon
ChiefB! So glad to see you're up and around! Many prayers sent from our family to yours.....and you're pear trees too, but we can talk about that a little later. Keep up the happy healing!

PT GOD
11-11-2012, 10:15 AM
some guys will do anything to get a PT waiver

IN YO FACE MSgthadenough and all you otha pansies out there who jumped my shit for posting dat...yall see who Chief B Thanked in his Comeback post..ME!!!! dats who biatches!!! truth be told and I be letting Cheif B speaks for himselfs on this...i bet it was my post that got him thinking...he said to himselves..."self...i needs to stop being such a malingering waiver having puss and stops letting a little something like heart surgery keeps me from PTing again "....yea...it was my post that got him better, not you alls posts of thanks..its was MINE that mades him realizes that you can'ts be letting a ltitle something like heart problems get in the ways of PT, TELL THEM CHIEF B!!!!

In celebration of you finally getting off your lazy ass..i ripped off TWO SHIRTS today!!!! then I be roaring like a lion on steroids..RAWWWWR!!!!

Robert F. Dorr
11-11-2012, 10:59 AM
CHIEFB: You moron, You forgot RS6405's latte.

BOB: Didn't. Got it right in the cup here. I don't really know what a
latte is, but I've got one here. I'm going to take it to RS6405 over in
that one-horse town near Wendover.

CHIEF B: You're taking it to who?

BOB: No, I'm not taking it to Hu. Hu is the ex-president of China. I'm
taking it to RS6405.

CHIEFB: Did you remember the sugar? Did you stir it?

BOB: Complain, complain, complain. If you're just going to bitch at
me all the time, why don't you just go back to the hospital? And what
is this about you saying something favorable about PT GOD? You've
got to quit bitching and get back to mentoring.

CHIEFB: Listen, one thing you've got to remember. You've got to take
care of the troops. It's the first rule of leadership, see?

BOB: Xi is the president of China. Besides, it doesn't need sugar. The
intended recipient is already very sweet. Unlike you this morning, I
might say.

CHIEFB and BOB: Hey. we're just kidding, everyone. Except for the part
about Bob not knowing what a latte is. We want to extend our best wishes
on Veterans Day to all who wore the uniform of the United States. God
bless and keep you all.

imported_DannyJ
11-11-2012, 01:38 PM
CHIEFB: You moron, You forgot RS6405's latte.

BOB: Didn't. Got it right in the cup here. I don't really know what a
latte is, but I've got one here. I'm going to take it to RS6405 over in
that one-horse town near Wendover.

CHIEF B: You're taking it to who?

BOB: No, I'm not taking it to Hu. Hu is the ex-president of China. I'm
taking it to RS6405.

CHIEFB: Did you remember the sugar? Did you stir it?

BOB: Complain, complain, complain. If you're just going to bitch at
me all the time, why don't you just go back to the hospital? And what
is this about you saying something favorable about PT GOD? You've
got to quit bitching and get back to mentoring.

CHIEFB: Listen, one thing you've got to remember. You've got to take
care of the troops. It's the first rule of leadership, see?

BOB: Xi is the president of China. Besides, it doesn't need sugar. The
intended recipient is already very sweet. Unlike you this morning, I
might say.

CHIEFB and BOB: Hey. we're just kidding, everyone. Except for the part
about Bob not knowing what a latte is. We want to extend our best wishes
on Veterans Day to all who wore the uniform of the United States. God
bless and keep you all.

You broke my knee slapper.

ChiefB
11-12-2012, 06:30 AM
You are right PT God, it's time I got off my almost dead a$$ and started to pay attention to what is important around here... my physical training or in your venacular...quit reachin' for the PT waiver and give you 50... I'll try 50 paces but the push-ups will have to wait. Meantime, put your shirt back on.:rolleyes:

P.S. PT God... what's this sudden turn to the linguistics of da hood? Is you or is you not really just one of us lifers but clothed in a tee shirt, hidden in a screen name and like us all, wrapped in an enigma?


P.S. For MSgthadenough... thanks for your support. :wave

ChiefB
11-12-2012, 06:53 AM
http://www.militarytimes.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.png Re: Where in the world is ChiefB?
ChiefB, mighty glad you are back. Just celebrated the six-month anniversary of my surgery. So far, so good. No chest pains or tightness. No shortness of breath. Major echocardiogram in July showed things were looking good so cardiologist pushed next appointment back to January from October. Still fighting battle of the bulge but went back to work in October. Hey, it's all good and I'm glad you are doing better.

Otis

Sorry, Otis... forgot to quote you.:sorry


You know, Otis, having never been even close to seriously ill or actually seriously injured in my life and having been in some tight spots including almost falling off a helicopter ramp when a safety harness I was wearing broke loose and left me hanging from some hydraulic lines and dangling out the back of the aircraft only to be saved by the crew chief who was harnessed and three aircraft accidents involving fire and other mayhem including a C-130 combat dash away from a threatening NVN Mig, these past months have been a real eye-opener to me and humbled me in light of all our injured vets and stricken elder service members.

I never realized how selfishly I had lived my healthier life. I consider myself a very fortunate elder in light of what could have been because of my personal negligence.

I know you feel somewhat the same.

CrustySMSgt
11-12-2012, 07:03 AM
Glad to see you back and hunting your pecker, er, I mean hunting & pecking!! :wave

Amazing how connected people can become through simple pieces of wire & fiber!

Look forward to seeing you continue to gain strength!

ChiefB
11-12-2012, 07:12 AM
Glad to see you back and hunting your pecker, er, I mean hunting & pecking!! :wave

Amazing how connected people can become through simple pieces of wire & fiber!

Look forward to seeing you continue to gain strength!

Thank you Crusty....BTW didn't you make Chief or are you just keeping the old moniker?

ChiefB
11-12-2012, 07:20 AM
My thoughts are with you, Chief. I don't know anything about you outside this forum, but I still consider you a mentor. Recover soon.

Thank you, I consider it a high honor to be so appreciated by a Marine. May I say ... Semper Fi.

ChiefB
11-12-2012, 07:24 AM
My Dearest ChiefB,

You are in my thoughts with a frequency I hope you can feel as you recover from your trials. I know you are surrounded by love and loving people. Rest and work hard to rejoin us as soon as you are able. Big hugs to you.

-Michelle

You are a real sweetheart and I so appreciated your many kind words these past months. Thank you.

ChiefB
11-12-2012, 07:30 AM
Well let me be the first to say: Damn glad to hear and see this!

Keep getting better. This is some good news, and I'm glad to hear the positive outlook.

Thank you and I'm damn glad to be able to say it. I appreciate your thoughtfulness.

ChiefB
11-12-2012, 07:57 AM
It's terrific that you're so positive and upbeat, ChiefB.

Everything has gone to hell here since you left. The mayor of Wendover is in jail for tampering with the HMFIC election results in BFE. OtisRNeedleman has started putting up posts that are intelligent and make sense. Tak is being pressured into retirement after taking money from the Special Interests in the HMFIC election. Shrike was last seen entering a thread with no exit, arm-in-arm with Grammar Police. The Russians are developing a new nuclear warhead with help from Putin's mistress. RS6405 was spotted hanging around with some kid with a skateboard. F4crewchick is trying to put negative rep points on failed Senate candidate Todd Akin. It's a regular mess here, ChiefB. And with the HMFIC election results being disputed and Tak's political action committee threatening to sue, nobody's in charge. Everyone is glad you're doing better and looking forward to your complete recovery and return so you can straighten out everybody around here.

Very glad to see your thoughtful and heartfelt post.

Thank you Mr. Dorr... quite a quirky post to be sure for one who may not be read in on this deeper than black program of yours but I am doing my best to decipher your TIC comments but note that you left out that the DCIA after having been outed in his own emails referring to a clandestine tryst with his biographer has elected to evade congressional questioning in the upcoming weeks.

That being said is it not possible that the new CMSAF will also plead nolo-contend-re in his knowledge of a long pending answer to a communication from this forum on NCO rights and privileges? Surely with your contacts, you will be able to ascertain the relative size of the cojones on this newly selected leader of the masses and seek to get satisfaction concerning still unanswered concerns of we the chosen few?

I quietly await your considered reply.

CrustySMSgt
11-12-2012, 08:02 AM
Thank you Crusty....BTW didn't you make Chief or are you just keeping the old moniker?

Rog, back in 09... lol

Just never bothered to ask to change my name.

Capt Alfredo
11-12-2012, 10:40 AM
Thank you Mr. Dorr... quite a quirky post to be sure for one who may not be read in on this deeper than black program of yours but I am doing my best to decipher your TIC comments but note that you left out that the DCIA after having been outed in his own emails referring to a clandestine tryst with his biographer has elected to evade congressional questioning in the upcoming weeks.

Good to have you back, Chief, but I will point out that no one gets to "elect to evade congressional questioning." They can subpoena him, if desired, just the same as they always could. Please do not add to the conspiracy tin-foil hat brigade and suggest this is all a plot to avoid some nascent "Benghazi-gate."

TJMAC77SP
11-12-2012, 10:46 AM
ChiefB. I offer my somewhat late (I really miss a lot on weekends sometimes) but heartfelt welcome back.

KellyinAvon
11-12-2012, 10:46 AM
Good to have you back, Chief, but I will point out that no one gets to "elect to evade congressional questioning." They can subpoena him, if desired, just the same as they always could. Please do not add to the conspiracy tin-foil hat brigade and suggest this is all a plot to avoid some nascent "Benghazi-gate."

I dunno Capt A, Holder has not been a "good witness", is in contempt of Congress and is still walking around.

imported_AFKILO7
11-12-2012, 11:00 AM
ChiefB,
It is great to read your posts once again! Welcome back, I sincerely hope everything is back on track. Happy Veterans Day (observed, I'm a day late...too many beers last night).

BRUWIN
11-12-2012, 02:58 PM
Welcome back ChiefB. I've been dispensing much wisdom in your place but for whatever reason it doesn't seem as much appreciated as yours is. I'll hand back the reigns now.

Old Fart IV
11-12-2012, 04:41 PM
Welcome back ChiefB and glad to hear you're on the road to recovery. The forum had sunk to a new low with the "life threads" being most popular discussions. Facebook would be ideal locations for these "about me / what I've been up to" pontifications.

Time for some adult leadership to drive these discussions back to the important issues we are facing today: Where to smartly make the mandated budgeted cuts (sorry General, you'll have to fly commercial like the rest of us); how to be a leader (versus manager) in doing "less with less"; and finally deciding what is more important in evaluating personnel - job skills or "looks" (show versus go).

I'll check-in when time permits to check on the application of adult leadership by you and others: family time and work take-up the majority of attention.

JR

OtisRNeedleman
11-12-2012, 06:51 PM
http://www.militarytimes.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.png Re: Where in the world is ChiefB?
ChiefB, mighty glad you are back. Just celebrated the six-month anniversary of my surgery. So far, so good. No chest pains or tightness. No shortness of breath. Major echocardiogram in July showed things were looking good so cardiologist pushed next appointment back to January from October. Still fighting battle of the bulge but went back to work in October. Hey, it's all good and I'm glad you are doing better.

Otis

Sorry, Otis... forgot to quote you.:sorry


You know, Otis, having never been even close to seriously ill or actually seriously injured in my life and having been in some tight spots including almost falling off a helicopter ramp when a safety harness I was wearing broke loose and left me hanging from some hydraulic lines and dangling out the back of the aircraft only to be saved by the crew chief who was harnessed and three aircraft accidents involving fire and other mayhem including a C-130 combat dash away from a threatening NVN Mig, these past months have been a real eye-opener to me and humbled me in light of all our injured vets and stricken elder service members.

I never realized how selfishly I had lived my healthier life. I consider myself a very fortunate elder in light of what could have been because of my personal negligence.

I know you feel somewhat the same.

ChiefB,

I'm just grateful to be alive. Doubly grateful to be back at work again. The aortic valve problem was congenital. Hadn't a clue about it until I was 54. In the past had various injuries and illnesses but nothing really life-threatening until the heart stuff came up. Untreated, my clock was going to run out, and sooner rather than later. But the heart is fixed and I'm back to work.

Otis

Robert F. Dorr
11-12-2012, 08:11 PM
Welcome back ChiefB. I've been dispensing much wisdom in your place but for whatever reason it doesn't seem as much appreciated as yours is. I'll hand back the reigns now.

RFD: Can I carry this latte on the plane? And this bouquet of roses?

AIRLINE AGENT: I'm sorry, sir, we don't have any flights to BFE. There's no airport there, see?

RFD: Xi is the president of China. He replaced somebody. I forget who.

AIRLINE AGENT: It's impossible to forget Hu. And will you explain to Bruwin the difference between reins and reigns? And tell TVANSCOT there is no audio book version of "MISSION TO TOKYO"?

RFD: They'll never find out. Nobody reads this thread. They're not in this thread.

AIRLINE AGENT: I'm not here, either. Your writing will never be credible if you write about contacting an airline and talking to a real person.

USMC0341
11-12-2012, 08:20 PM
Wow, went away for a long weekend away from civilization and come back to hear ChiefB is back in action. Best news I've heard in a while, glad to have you back ChiefB, your presence has been greatly missed.

Z1911
11-13-2012, 01:36 AM
I dunno Capt A, Holder has not been a "good witness", is in contempt of Congress and is still walking around.

Not to mention Holder will probably be the next nomination the the Supreme Court...

Measure Man
11-13-2012, 01:53 AM
Truly great to hear from you, ChiefB...it has brought great cheer to my day!

VOLZZZMAN
11-13-2012, 04:16 AM
Welcome back Chief B! Looking forward to your steady return.

ChiefB
11-13-2012, 04:51 AM
Good to have you back, Chief, but I will point out that no one gets to "elect to evade congressional questioning." They can subpoena him, if desired, just the same as they always could. Please do not add to the conspiracy tin-foil hat brigade and suggest this is all a plot to avoid some nascent "Benghazi-gate."

Thanks for the welcome back.

Sorry, Capt. .... no conspiracy or tin-hat theories here... just a lead in to my primary TIC thought on the new CMSAF in light of the previous CMSAF and his non-answers to our letter of concern .

BTW "evade" is not a description of my being unaware that he can ultimately be subpoenaed. But, you knew that, right?

Good to be back and talk to you again.:thumb

Drackore
11-13-2012, 05:27 AM
Oh...that was WISDOM you were dispensing. I thought it was something else....sorry Bru. :D


Welcome back ChiefB. I've been dispensing much wisdom in your place but for whatever reason it doesn't seem as much appreciated as yours is. I'll hand back the reigns now.

Battleshort
11-13-2012, 10:44 AM
Good to see ya back Chief!

Swing by the Fridge and say hello.

Robert F. Dorr
11-13-2012, 11:16 AM
Welcome back ChiefB and glad to hear you're on the road to recovery. The forum had sunk to a new low with the "life threads" being most popular discussions. Facebook would be ideal locations for these "about me / what I've been up to" pontifications.

Time for some adult leadership to drive these discussions back to the important issues we are facing today: Where to smartly make the mandated budgeted cuts (sorry General, you'll have to fly commercial like the rest of us); how to be a leader (versus manager) in doing "less with less"; and finally deciding what is more important in evaluating personnel - job skills or "looks" (show versus go).

I'll check-in when time permits to check on the application of adult leadership by you and others: family time and work take-up the majority of attention.

JR

The post by Old Fart IV (hereafter: OF) has been on my mind for 19 hours. That's saying a lot. Parts of the post are thought provoking, which ought to be the goal in these Forums.

Other parts of the post: not so much. Does anyone think it's an original idea to value leadership over management? Would anyone seeking to learn about leadership heed a lecture from someone who denigrates himself with such a deprecating screen name?

If I understand OF, he would prefer to see these Forums as a site for professional dialogue about the Air Force. People actually having fun (imagine!) with the Sherpa, the sheep, a latte and a life thread, are anathema to OF, who values the return of ChiefB on the ground that ChiefB will be serious -- read, humorless. I value ChiefB's mentorship on the best and brightest way to use these Forums but trust me, OF, our dear friend does have a sense of humor.

Compare this Forum to those of the other four military service branches. There's a lot more going on here. But here's the problem, OF: When Forum members really DO discuss the Air Force, their focus is narrow, their purpose parochial and their aspirations minuscule. Look at some of the posts about EPRs, CBT, PT, OTZ promotions, pay and benefits, the shape of the pocket on the uniform. They're narrow, parochial, small arguments about minor, self-centered stuff. Nothing is wrong with that. In fact, it mirrors the flawed content of the newspaper company that owns this venue. But please, if you will, OF, show me a discussion thread here that speaks to big problems facing those who fly and fight; to the future of long-range, land-based air power; or to personal development within the profession of aerial arms.

This isn't Air Command and Staff or the NCO Academy. This is a thread where people hang around, have fun, provoke others (as you did, brilliantly) and chat a little about Air Force-related stuff and other stuff.

Some of OF's suggested topics are good ones although they're less important to me than the future of the manned bomber. I don't need to apologize for having a little fun once in awhile because I write 2,740 words per day about the Air Force for serious appearance in serious publications. If I want to oogle R6405 in some of my remaining time during the day, I damn well will, proffered latte in hand. I value these Forums in part for the new friendships they've brought. A lot of what I post in these Forums may be frivolous (imagine!) but at 0.03 posts per day, a grand total of 19 and one friend, lurker OF will have to do some moving and shaking to make a larger contribution. Of course, I'm guessing that OF is actually someone else in disguise, but who knows?

OF, thank you very much for doing a good thing by provoking some thought. You've performed a service. I'm going to fly away now and get back to writing about the Air Force. In the next hours, I need to write an opinion column for the newspaper and a blurb for my current book, "MISSION TO TOKYO," which is in part abour airmen who were selfless and who thought large.

Thanks again. And when I'm in these spaces, I will, as you do, value ChiefB's mentorship.

giggawatt
11-13-2012, 02:10 PM
The post by Old Fart IV (hereafter: OF) has been on my mind for 19 hours. That's saying a lot. Parts of the post are thought provoking, which ought to be the goal in these Forums.

Other parts of the post: not so much. Does anyone think it's an original idea to value leadership over management? Would anyone seeking to learn about leadership heed a lecture from someone who denigrates himself with such a deprecating screen name?

If I understand OF, he would prefer to see these Forums as a site for professional dialogue about the Air Force. People actually having fun (imagine!) with the Sherpa, the sheep, a latte and a life thread, are anathema to OF, who values the return of ChiefB on the ground that ChiefB will be serious -- read, humorless. I value ChiefB's mentorship on the best and brightest way to use these Forums but trust me, OF, our dear friend does have a sense of humor.

Compare this Forum to those of the other four military service branches. There's a lot more going on here. But here's the problem, OF: When Forum members really DO discuss the Air Force, their focus is narrow, their purpose parochial and their aspirations minuscule. Look at some of the posts about EPRs, CBT, PT, OTZ promotions, pay and benefits, the shape of the pocket on the uniform. They're narrow, parochial, small arguments about minor, self-centered stuff. Nothing is wrong with that. In fact, it mirrors the flawed content of the newspaper company that owns this venue. But please, if you will, OF, show me a discussion thread here that speaks to big problems facing those who fly and fight; to the future of long-range, land-based air power; or to personal development within the profession of aerial arms.

This isn't Air Command and Staff or the NCO Academy. This is a thread where people hang around, have fun, provoke others (as you did, brilliantly) and chat a little about Air Force-related stuff and other stuff.

Some of OF's suggested topics are good ones although they're less important to me than the future of the manned bomber. I don't need to apologize for having a little fun once in awhile because I write 2,740 words per day about the Air Force for serious appearance in serious publications. If I want to oogle R6405 in some of my remaining time during the day, I damn well will, proffered latte in hand. I value these Forums in part for the new friendships they've brought. A lot of what I post in these Forums may be frivolous (imagine!) but at 0.03 posts per day, a grand total of 19 and one friend, lurker OF will have to do some moving and shaking to make a larger contribution. Of course, I'm guessing that OF is actually someone else in disguise, but who knows?

OF, thank you very much for doing a good thing by provoking some thought. You've performed a service. I'm going to fly away now and get back to writing about the Air Force. In the next hours, I need to write an opinion column for the newspaper and a blurb for my current book, "MISSION TO TOKYO," which is in part abour airmen who were selfless and who thought large.

Thanks again. And when I'm in these spaces, I will, as you do, value ChiefB's mentorship.

See the bold. Those same topics are often beaten to death as well. You could probably go back and find 5-10 different threads on every topic listed by OF.

js7799
11-13-2012, 02:37 PM
Welcome back ChiefB, glad to see you're on the mend.

Calmo70
11-13-2012, 02:43 PM
ChiefB - been off the forum over the long weekend and just saw you're back and doing well. As a retired Chief - glad to have you back as even a mentor to me - as I've been known to not act so "Chief Like" on these forums. Guess that comes from reading too many of Bruwin's posts.

JD2780
11-13-2012, 02:48 PM
The post by Old Fart IV (hereafter: OF) has been on my mind for 19 hours. That's saying a lot. Parts of the post are thought provoking, which ought to be the goal in these Forums.

Other parts of the post: not so much. Does anyone think it's an original idea to value leadership over management? Would anyone seeking to learn about leadership heed a lecture from someone who denigrates himself with such a deprecating screen name?

If I understand OF, he would prefer to see these Forums as a site for professional dialogue about the Air Force. People actually having fun (imagine!) with the Sherpa, the sheep, a latte and a life thread, are anathema to OF, who values the return of ChiefB on the ground that ChiefB will be serious -- read, humorless. I value ChiefB's mentorship on the best and brightest way to use these Forums but trust me, OF, our dear friend does have a sense of humor.

Compare this Forum to those of the other four military service branches. There's a lot more going on here. But here's the problem, OF: When Forum members really DO discuss the Air Force, their focus is narrow, their purpose parochial and their aspirations minuscule. Look at some of the posts about EPRs, CBT, PT, OTZ promotions, pay and benefits, the shape of the pocket on the uniform. They're narrow, parochial, small arguments about minor, self-centered stuff. Nothing is wrong with that. In fact, it mirrors the flawed content of the newspaper company that owns this venue. But please, if you will, OF, show me a discussion thread here that speaks to big problems facing those who fly and fight; to the future of long-range, land-based air power; or to personal development within the profession of aerial arms.

This isn't Air Command and Staff or the NCO Academy. This is a thread where people hang around, have fun, provoke others (as you did, brilliantly) and chat a little about Air Force-related stuff and other stuff.

Some of OF's suggested topics are good ones although they're less important to me than the future of the manned bomber. I don't need to apologize for having a little fun once in awhile because I write 2,740 words per day about the Air Force for serious appearance in serious publications. If I want to oogle R6405 in some of my remaining time during the day, I damn well will, proffered latte in hand. I value these Forums in part for the new friendships they've brought. A lot of what I post in these Forums may be frivolous (imagine!) but at 0.03 posts per day, a grand total of 19 and one friend, lurker OF will have to do some moving and shaking to make a larger contribution. Of course, I'm guessing that OF is actually someone else in disguise, but who knows?

OF, thank you very much for doing a good thing by provoking some thought. You've performed a service. I'm going to fly away now and get back to writing about the Air Force. In the next hours, I need to write an opinion column for the newspaper and a blurb for my current book, "MISSION TO TOKYO," which is in part abour airmen who were selfless and who thought large.

Thanks again. And when I'm in these spaces, I will, as you do, value ChiefB's mentorship.

No its not the highlighted organizations. The stuff put out on the forums is usually more useful. NCOA ALS Command and Stafff. Usually just BS.

They talk about the issues at hand. The issues the Airmen really want to talk about. I like talking about boots on the ground being combined with your "aerial arms" to achieve maximum success. You cant have maximum success without both.

DWWSWWD
11-13-2012, 04:19 PM
hey, you scared us there for a bit. Welcome back. To get you caught up..... PT sucks, CMSAF doesn't have a clue and someone should fix the EPR system. I think should about do it. -DW

JD2780
11-14-2012, 11:03 AM
So who is the vagina that neg rep'd me telling me to STFU because I had a counter point to RFD? Dont blame me the current fight is cas centric.

Whiner.

sandsjames
11-14-2012, 05:28 PM
So who is the vagina that neg rep'd me telling me to STFU because I had a counter point to RFD? Dont blame me the current fight is cas centric.

Whiner.

Oh dear lord! Why are people still complaining about this guy? It has nothing to do with any comment you make. It's merely about getting people to comment on it.

JD2780
11-14-2012, 10:29 PM
Oh dear lord! Why are people still complaining about this guy? It has nothing to do with any comment you make. It's merely about getting people to comment on it.

Nevermind, I had to go back and reread what you typed. You're correct

bb stacker
11-14-2012, 10:39 PM
good to see your doing well Chief

Mr. Happy
03-06-2013, 04:15 PM
Been awhile since we've heard from ChiefB. Anyone have any word on him? Hope he's doing okay.

OtisRNeedleman
03-07-2013, 03:15 AM
I miss and love ChiefB.

We all miss and love him. Remember, he had a stroke on top of the heart surgery, and is an older man. It can take quite some time to recover from all that. Nevertheless, hope and trust ChiefB is doing well.

Robert F. Dorr
03-09-2013, 02:15 AM
ChiefB is still among us and is reading these pages regularly.

ChiefB
05-30-2013, 03:58 AM
ChiefB is still among us and is reading these pages regularly.

Robert... I want to thank you for your concern and calls throughout my time in the hospital and recovery. My Frau was impressed and thanks you, also. You are a good man. (note the two spaces between sentences though.) :)

ChiefB
05-30-2013, 04:36 AM
David,

I'm sorry to hear about your dad. He's been missed here.

I know what your dad's going through. Had open heart surgery myself on May 7. Replaced aortic valve and did a bypass. Got out of the hospital on May 11.

Am sure the surgery will go well. Look for your dad to be in intensive care for maybe 48 hours, then in a regular hospital room for two or three days. When your dad comes out of surgery, he's going to have a lot of tubes going into and coming out of him. His leg will be bandaged where the vein was removed for the bypass. Frankly, he's going to look pretty beat-up. I did. He won't be able to talk until he comes off the ventilator in a day or two. As he progresses, the tubes start coming out, as well as the staples for the chest incision, if the staples were used. Pretty soon he'll be champing at the bit to get home, where he can sleep in his own bed and actually get some rest.

Tips re recovery....first, last, and always, PROTECT THE STERNUM. The long recovery is due to the need for the sternum, which has been cracked open and pulled apart, then wired back together, to heal. Your dad will need to be very careful, especially during the first few weeks, about getting into and out of bed, chairs, and the like. Tendency is to use the arms. Gotta use the legs as much as possible instead. He'll probably be given a heart pillow which will help, and the medical people will show him how to use the legs to get in and out. No driving for some time. I just started driving again this past week. Coughing is important early on to prevent pneumonia. Hurts but you must do it. Use the heart pillow to cushion the chest.

He'll likely start a walking program when he gets home. He was probably pretty active before this stuff hit, which will stand him in good stead. Your dad will be taken for walks in the hospital, just around the floor, escorted by a nurse/aide until he shows he can go by himself. The more you can walk, the sooner the tubes come out, and the sooner you go home.

Last babble...recovery from open-heart surgery isn't a linear process. The body has gone through the equivalent of an auto accident. Chest will be sore, and likely back, neck, and shoulders - going through this now. Took the pain meds for a while but stopped. Just the occasional ibuprofen. Your dad will need more rest than usual. There will be good days and bad days early on. As time goes by there are fewer bad days. Have found that getting back to the normal routine, but making allowances for extra time and extra rest, is a big help in recovery.

I shall keep your dad in my prayers.

Otis

Otis, this was a terrific post. You were spot on in every instance... I can now tell you that this post of yours was more insight and advice than I got from the medical community (although they were magnificent). I read and reread this often and everything was just as you said.

I had a bit of a stroke also that discombobulated my right side but the old brain has managed to learn new routes and I am recovering very well.

The one thing I would add is the experience of being washed, completely naked, by a retired Chief's daughter/nurse, in the hospital, who treated me as kindly as if I was kin. That was indeed an unusually tender moment that made me...well, weep.

I thank you again for your article and your kind words of advice to me and my son. I hope you are well also and all the best to you.

Robert F. Dorr
05-30-2013, 09:28 AM
Robert... I want to thank you for your concern and calls throughout my time in the hospital and recovery. My Frau was impressed and thanks you, also. You are a good man. (note the two spaces between sentences though.) :)

Two spaces? And you were my hero! (Sigh).

OtisRNeedleman
05-30-2013, 08:01 PM
Otis, this was a terrific post. You were spot on in every instance... I can now tell you that this post of yours was more insight and advice than I got from the medical community (although they were magnificent). I read and reread this often and everything was just as you said.

I had a bit of a stroke also that discombobulated my right side but the old brain has managed to learn new routes and I am recovering very well.

The one thing I would add is the experience of being washed, completely naked, by a retired Chief's daughter/nurse, in the hospital, who treated me as kindly as if I was kin. That was indeed an unusually tender moment that made me...well, weep.

I thank you again for your article and your kind words of advice to me and my son. I hope you are well also and all the best to you.

ChiefB,

Glad to have been of service. Good to see you are progressing and getting more active...that's the real proof of the pudding in recovery. :)

As for me, am hanging in there. Keeping up on the exercise, still working on the weight. Waiting to hear on a job so I can get fiscally fit again.

Glad I could help,

Otis

ChiefB
05-30-2013, 09:07 PM
ChiefB,

Glad to have been of service. Good to see you are progressing and getting more active...that's the real proof of the pudding in recovery. :)

As for me, am hanging in there. Keeping up on the exercise, still working on the weight. Waiting to hear on a job so I can get fiscally fit again.

Glad I could help,

Otis

I thought you were working.... what happened there?

OtisRNeedleman
05-31-2013, 12:08 AM
I thought you were working.... what happened there?

Didn't work out, unfortunately.