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retiredguy
09-08-2010, 12:10 AM
Why are 100 percent disabled retirees being denied concurrent receipt? If the military would fairly compensate their disabled, then I agree that concurrent receipt is not needed. I did not choose to give up what the military took from me but always thought that my sacrifice would count for something. Why not actually compensate a veteran for their level of education within their field of study at a level they would have been doing in the real world. Is this too much to ask for all the suffering the military caused in our lives. Sure I believe in serving my country, I am just tired of watching congressman getting huge pay checks for winning popularity contests and voting themselves pay raises while people who stood on the front line get a 30 percent of basic pay and a kick in the ass out the door. Veterans need a voice in congress because all we get are leftovers. Sure, all those officers who are LtCmdrs don't give a crap because they get enough to pay all their bills. Us poor O1's who got injurred from the get go don't get crap. If I could make the decision not to join the military back in time, the choice would be easy. The military is a good old boy club for those who never get sick. All you 18 year olds be advised that you loose your American rights as soon as you sign the dotted line. Thats how America legally kills its citizens. Every soldier is just a number with 10 more waiting behind you when something happens. All smart people should avoid the military and live healthy lives-a hard lesson learned! If you want to serve the country, go into politics, that's where the money and easy living exist.

Battleshort
09-08-2010, 10:30 AM
100 percent disabled retirees are not being denied concurrent reciept. The cutoff is at 50 %. Go to the VA.

...or read this. (http://www.military.com/benefits/military-pay/retired-pay/retired-concurrent-receipt-overview)


Concurrent Receipt Overview
Qualified disabled military retirees will now get paid both their full military retirement pay and their VA disability compensation. This recently passed law phases out (over 9 years) the VA disability offset, which means that military retirees with 20 or more years of service and a 50% (or higher) VA rated disability will no longer have their military retirement pay reduced by the amount of their VA disability compensation.

F4CrewChick
09-09-2010, 12:28 AM
100 percent disabled retirees are not being denied concurrent reciept. The cutoff is at 50 %. Go to the VA.

...or read this. (http://www.military.com/benefits/military-pay/retired-pay/retired-concurrent-receipt-overview)
+1...I'm 50% and retired.

spirit_eyes
09-09-2010, 03:40 PM
dude, they're right. 20 years active, 100% p&t. i get all my money (such as it is) plus ssi.

FatCat40
09-09-2010, 06:36 PM
I retired 3 months ago after 21 yrs and I get 90% disability AND my retirement check (minus the 10% due to redux....still, it's a pretty decent chunk of change)

Not sure what the policy is for those MEDICALLY retired who didn't do 20. Pretty sure it's different though.

smarg
09-09-2010, 08:25 PM
We're doomed. Parasitic "where is my free check" mentality.

Stick a fork in us.

FatCat40
09-10-2010, 07:34 PM
We're doomed. Parasitic "where is my free check" mentality.

Stick a fork in us.

Ok, I'm a hit dog so I'll bark first.

You GD right I want my "free check". I served for 21 yrs (which is more than what 90% of the US population can say) I did what was asked of me and performed my duties w/o complaint.

Now that it's over hell yeah I want every cent of disability that's coming my way because the Army damn sure didn't mind taking it's pound of flesh from me! And I claimed everything too. Everytime I sneezed, it was documented, every pounding my ankles, knees and back took from running for miles on concrete that eventually blew out my joints. Every roadmarch I ever did carrying a weapon, 50 lb ruck, wearing full battle rattle and every deployment I endured back to back for the past 10 years again carrying a heavy load of battle rattle. GD right PAY ME!

"Freedom" is not free!

MCGYVER
09-12-2010, 07:53 PM
What blows my mind is a 100% disabled vet that has a full time job doing physically demanding work. WTF?!?!?! Wow!

spirit_eyes
09-14-2010, 04:37 PM
What blows my mind is a 100% disabled vet that has a full time job doing physically demanding work. WTF?!?!?! Wow!

huh? who? a 100% disabled vet who gets caught working loses BIG TIME. might want to check your facts.

spirit_eyes
09-14-2010, 04:40 PM
Ok, I'm a hit dog so I'll bark first.

You GD right I want my "free check". I served for 21 yrs (which is more than what 90% of the US population can say) I did what was asked of me and performed my duties w/o complaint.

Now that it's over hell yeah I want every cent of disability that's coming my way because the Army damn sure didn't mind taking it's pound of flesh from me! And I claimed everything too. Everytime I sneezed, it was documented, every pounding my ankles, knees and back took from running for miles on concrete that eventually blew out my joints. Every roadmarch I ever did carrying a weapon, 50 lb ruck, wearing full battle rattle and every deployment I endured back to back for the past 10 years again carrying a heavy load of battle rattle. GD right PAY ME!

"Freedom" is not free!

hey, i did my 20 active, and i totally agree. i busted my butt, and gave it more than i had. gd right i wanted every penny, and i went and got it. i went thru crap 4 year guardies don't have a clue. smarg, give up, we know you just cry about about "everyone's getting a free ride, but me". if you'd done the time, you'd be just as messed up as us, and you'd be trying for every penny too.

eriter
09-15-2010, 05:13 PM
huh? who? a 100% disabled vet who gets caught working loses BIG TIME. might want to check your facts.

I've checked the facts and you can also (prhome.defense.gov/MPP/docs/rand_disability_sum_1005.pdf).

You can be rated with 100% service connected disability and still maintain full time employment with no penalties.

spirit_eyes
09-16-2010, 07:13 PM
I've checked the facts and you can also (prhome.defense.gov/MPP/docs/rand_disability_sum_1005.pdf).

You can be rated with 100% service connected disability and still maintain full time employment with no penalties.

well, your reference ISN'T from uncle sam, it's from the RAND coporation.
and i know a couple guys personally, who volunteered with a local vet center - filing, making coffee, greeting, etc - and uncle sam told them that if they could that, then they could hold down a regular job, and pulled their disability.

eriter
09-20-2010, 06:00 PM
You're correct. The reference is a study performed by RAND Corp for the Sec Def. One point that I wanted to try and convey is that an individual may receive 100% service connected disability with no effect on civilian employment. If it is NON-service connected that is a completely different scenerio.

Battleshort
09-20-2010, 06:09 PM
This should answer several questions.

Yes - 100% can work, unless you are classed as "unemployable".

Employ (http://veterans.vermont.gov/benefits/vadisability)

Timincal
09-21-2010, 03:47 AM
huh? who? a 100% disabled vet who gets caught working loses BIG TIME. might want to check your facts.

Bud you need to check YOUR facts.I am 100% disabled from the Navy.I receive 75% of my retirement tax free and have for 10 years.

I went on TDRL in1994 and went PDRL in 1999.

I did work full time in my rating after I retired and could work it full time today if I wanted to.

The military and the V.A. DO NOT care if you are working or not.

What ever reason a person was retired from the military medically or any disability payment you receive from the V.A. is moot after you become a civilian.

I don't even claim my retired pay on my taxes,because I don't have to.

My issue is having one department of the Federal government take part of my disability and give it to another department so they can give it back to me.

That is just not right no matter how one spins it.

I had 19 years 9 months active and a total of 22 years when my reserve period was add in for pay purposes.

I fought the system for 18 months to keep from being medically retired at all.

The joke was on the Navy.

I was misdiagnosed by the Navy doctors to begin with.

I went to the V.A. when I went TDRL and they sent me to a specialist for diagnosis.

He knew what was most likely the cause of problems and told me he could "fix"it.

I told him not until I went PDRL!

I now receive 75% retired pay instead of 50% and it is tax free!

Oh just in case you maybe wondering.

I was losing 90% of my hearing periodically.

V.A. doctor told me I had picked up a fungus while in Guam or the P.I. or some other jungle environment and certain times of the year the weather exacerbated it.

A good ENT specialist would have discovered that.

The Navy has all their ENT's assigned to Carriers not Navy Hospitals!

FatCat40
09-21-2010, 05:46 AM
I specifically asked during the VA portion of retirement briefings if one were authorized to work if rated 100% disabled from the military and was told not only is it authorized but it is in fact against the law for an employer to even inquire about your VA disability status.

DUSTOFFSGM
09-24-2010, 07:21 PM
I am still amazed at how many people who served first of all as volunteers, then for whatever reasons reenlisted as many times as it took to either be considered for medical board proceedings or actual retirement, have the gall and bile to bitch about anything that the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, or Coast Guard "DID" to them...Soldier, NCO, or Officer, one would hope with at least a High School and in most cases some college (Or College Graduates) education, can plead ignorance about any benefits because if they did not know of or were not aware of them they kept themselves out in the cold, what did they expect: "Show up, Suit up, Shut up, and expect your service that by osmosis you knew everything about everything?" How many of those retirees that are complaining the loudest were drafted, you do remember the draft, back then it was "implied" that if you "kept your feces in one grid square" and stayed out of trouble for twenty years you could expect Uncle Sam to take care of you for the rest of your life, medically, dentally, etc."

Well, what do you know, times they do change, when I was drafted the basic pay for a PV1 was $134.50 per month, and I know many that were drafted before me that their entry pay was less than $90.00 per month and some had families! Those of us who retired prior to 2000 no matter the rank are doing OK, but nowhere near how well those who retired lately, to give you an example a SFC on Active Duty today with all entitlements with 16 years makes more than I did as a SGM with 26, even though I qualified/earned my disability and CRSC times they do change, and they should because you deserve all of the pay you receive...As for your retirement NO ONE, I SAY AGAIN NO ONE has a bitch about anyone who has earned their disability and retirement...And for sure no one has the right to give advice to anyone about joining unless they are Recruiters...

I spent my 26 years in the Army, went where they told me was proud of every assignment I had especially as the 1SG of the first Blackhawk DUSTOFF Company in Desert Shield/Storm...I even met my wife in the Army while we both were going through AIT, married now for 37 years... Yup, anyone who has the REAL RIGHT to complain knows where, when, and how to...God Bless all of you retired and not, with disabilities and none...'Nuff Said...DUSTOFF!

Jeff M.

SENDBILLMONEY
09-25-2010, 06:07 PM
I specifically asked during the VA portion of retirement briefings if one were authorized to work if rated 100% disabled from the military and was told not only is it authorized but it is in fact against the law for an employer to even inquire about your VA disability status.

The answer is actually "it depends."

If you're rated 100% schedular (i.e., your various compensable service-connected disabilities, when combined, equal 100%) then you can work. Of course, there are circumstances where it can be used against you ("gosh, you aren't showing a lot of absenteeism from your job. Let's see how bad your service-connected condition really is").

If you're rated TDIU (total disability for individual unemployability), then you're being paid at the 100% rate even though your combined disabilities equal less than 100%. TDIU is for people who are unable to maintain employment in a substantially gainful occupation (that's a low amount, just over $10K last time I checked) due to their service connected disabilities. TDIU personnel who work risk losing their TDIU and being required to pay back improperly received funds.

DREALT
09-29-2010, 12:18 PM
+1...I'm 50% and retired.

Maybe I am the only one being told this, but according to DFAS there are exceptions after exception. I was a mobilized reservist and injured combat related during the war with written LODs backing me up. After two years of MEB I got a 60% Army disability and was placed in the PDRL. I had also by this time completed my 20 years "reserve" time for a reserve pension. Of course 60% disability based on full time is a lot more than a reserve pension. At the same time I applied for VA and obtained 60%. I turned sixty and applied per my DAV rep and others for CRSC and CRDP. I was found eligible "HOWEVER" If you receive regular Army Disability, DFAS uses a special formula that looks at what you would have obtained as a reservist and subtracts that from the Army, and declare you cannot receive any amount greater than the difference. In other words, according to DFAS, because I receive an Army disability pension instead of retirement, my VA benefits will always be offset, even when the offset stops for other soldiers. Has anybody else encountered this issue?

retiredguy
08-05-2013, 04:35 AM
You're misinformed...concurrent receipt is only given to chapter 61, 100% disabled. Chapter 35, 100% disabled Do Not. Even though it's a full retirement with presidential seal, a meager VA benefit is awarded while being left unemployable, a family of five, and an unusable Aerospace Engineering degree.